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post #16 of 31
8/10/10 at 8:43pm
where is a good site to purchase the HR?
Carole
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post #17 of 31
8/11/10 at 9:56am
Howdy,

Sorry to the OP, that I don't have any words of wisdom to offer.

Last year I created a 10 sheet cake, stacked/doweled/carved cake to recplicate a school built in the 1800's that was torn down the month before the cake-competition in August.

My cake was OUTSIDE, in 90 degree humid heat, only under a cheap covered tent, from 8am until 6pm. The cake did not lean, it did not melt. It was iced in my grandmothers BC icing (she was a caker for over 50 years and during the depression) and then covered in MMF.

However, I am just merely curious as to why the HR is best? This is my basic BC recipe, super, super easy and has never failed me. I use the wal-mart store brand great value all-veggie shortening.

So, for anyone interested, here is mine! (thanks grandma, RIP!)

2lbs 10X
1/2 C Shortening
1/2 (1 stick) softened MARGARINE
1tbsp vanilla (or whatever flavoring)
Dash of Milk if the consistency is too think

Mix together the shortening and margarine. Add in vanilla. Slowly incorportate the sugar. Like I said, never had any problems!
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post #18 of 31
8/11/10 at 2:44pm
what kind of shortening did you use???did it contain TRANS FATS?
all the newly processed shortening has NO trans fats and will not stabilize
Carole
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post #19 of 31
8/11/10 at 3:35pm
Wal-Mart's "Great Value" brand of All-Vegetable Shortening has 3 grams of TF per serving. But be careful...Wal-Mart also has shortening that either has no TF at all or less than the All-Veggie. (The cans look the same, except the All-Veggie shortening shows a piece of pie on the label where the other shortening shows, I believe, a piece of fried chicken.) icon_lol.gif

Curious thing about the argument that the shortening must contain TF: IndyDebi uses the "new" Crisco without TF and swears by it. She has said the lack of TF doesn't make a bit of difference in how her buttercream holds up. icon_confused.gif
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post #20 of 31
8/11/10 at 3:51pm
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Originally Posted by JohnnyCakes1966

Wal-Mart's "Great Value" brand of All-Vegetable Shortening has 3 grams of TF per serving. But be careful...Wal-Mart also has shortening that either has no TF at all or less than the All-Veggie. (The cans look the same, except the All-Veggie shortening shows a piece of pie on the label where the other shortening shows, I believe, a piece of fried chicken.) icon_lol.gif

Curious thing about the argument that the shortening must contain TF: IndyDebi uses the "new" Crisco without TF and swears by it. She has said the lack of TF doesn't make a bit of difference in how her buttercream holds up. icon_confused.gif

I haven't found trans-fat in Wal-Mart shortening for well over a year--Don't tell me it's a regional thing or something...

No matter.. I've got my HR!
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post #21 of 31
8/11/10 at 4:03pm
Geez, you got me wanting to get out of work asap and see if mine has TF or not! icon_wink.gif
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post #22 of 31
8/11/10 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by kansaslaura

I haven't found trans-fat in Wal-Mart shortening for well over a year--Don't tell me it's a regional thing or something...



I'm in St. Louis and just bought these tubs about a week ago. Maybe Kansas has stricter regulations on food/trans-fat?? If you're close to Kansas City, you might check a Wal-Mart on the Missouri side. But like I mentioned, they do have 2 kinds and the labels look alike except for fried chicken on one and pie on the other. I thought they were the same until I looked closer and saw that one says All-Vegetable Shortening where the other is just Shortening. It might be worth another look.

I use HR for my wedding cakes, but TF shortening for most others, especially kids birthday cakes/cupcakes. I'd have to charge $1-2 more for my cupcakes if I used HR on them! Hmmmmmmmmm...... icon_evil.gificon_lol.gif
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post #23 of 31
8/11/10 at 4:22pm
There are states that have "outlawed" transfats. I believe New York was the first. I saw it on the food network channel.
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post #24 of 31
8/11/10 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by malene541

There are states that have "outlawed" transfats. I believe New York was the first. I saw it on the food network channel.



I've read that you can't even buy HR in California. I imagine the big bakers are really having a hard time.
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post #25 of 31
8/11/10 at 7:48pm
Our walmart in Pittsburgh sells OUR VALUE with the piece of cherry pie on the front and it has 0.5 gr trans fat
Its too soft!!
Carole
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post #26 of 31
8/11/10 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by malene541

There are states that have "outlawed" transfats. I believe New York was the first. I saw it on the food network channel.



I live in NY and a local grocery store here has a store brand that still has trans fat, 3 g.

Is three grams still little? How many grams does hi ratio have?
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post #27 of 31
8/11/10 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by kansaslaura

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Originally Posted by malene541

There are states that have "outlawed" transfats. I believe New York was the first. I saw it on the food network channel.



I've read that you can't even buy HR in California. I imagine the big bakers are really having a hard time.



I buy HR all the time from my local cake supply store in CA and she makes and sells cakes. I do not know if you can sell cakes with Hr AND transfats because I do not sell cakes. But you can certainly buy HR in CA.
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post #28 of 31
8/11/10 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by cheriej

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Originally Posted by kansaslaura

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Originally Posted by malene541

There are states that have "outlawed" transfats. I believe New York was the first. I saw it on the food network channel.



I've read that you can't even buy HR in California. I imagine the big bakers are really having a hard time.



I buy HR all the time from my local cake supply store in CA and she makes and sells cakes. I do not know if you can sell cakes with Hr AND transfats because I do not sell cakes. But you can certainly buy HR in CA.


I also heard HR would not be sold here in CA but so far my cake store still carries it.
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post #29 of 31
8/11/10 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by chrissypie

Is three grams still little?



The shortening I use has 3 grams TF and the buttercream holds up great. It isn't as smooth as the buttercream I make using HR, but it still makes a great, stable frosting.
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post #30 of 31
8/11/10 at 8:16pm
I understand that TF aren't good for you, but to ban them?? Aren't we all adult enough to decide for ourselves if we want to eat them or not? I mean, they print on a pack of cigarettes that they can cause cancer, but they still sell them. Personally, I'd rather die from eating buttercream with TF than from smoking a cigarette. icon_lol.gif
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