Linda Reese has a great cd on b/c flowrers also. I pipe hibiscus like she does. Your b/c can,t be thin. Make it between a good medium and stiff, but not stiff. Use a 125-127 tip. Pipe 5 mounds using the 125-127 tip. Do not move the tip out. Keep it in one position until you pipe a nice large mound. Then with the big end down and little end up, and out from this mound a little, move forward a little, and then start ruffling up left side , go over the mound , still ruffling, and then back down right side , still ruffling , closer to the beginning of the petal , back off pressure and stop. This is a deep flower, so that is why you build the mount and pipe as you do. After piping all five petals.( they shoud join in the middle, then take a peice of speghetti, and you can paint it red or yellow,etc. and then let that dry. Then pipe r/i dots at the top, etc. like a hibiscus looks. I always look on the internet and find the flower i want to make and try to make it realisic looking. hth The icing consistency is of great importance. Not thin , nor thick.