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post #1 of 68
7/10/10 at 9:17am
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Help me understand what happened. I made her recipe as written, I did double it in my kitchen aid. I crumb coated and it wasnt dry after 30 minutes so I put them in the fridge for about 5 min, took it out waited 5 min and frosted and stacked. I almost immediatley got bubbles and where it didnt bubble is started melting off the cake. It was a terrible mess!

So at 1 am, I unstacked my cakes, and had hubby run to the store and made all shortening based buttercream and re-iced. This morning they are fine.

I do live in Fl but the humidity is ok today, I used this recipe last week when it had rained for 4 days straight and the humidity was 100% so I do not think it was that. Did the fridge have anything to do with it?

Thanks, it was my first ever all nighter on a cake... ok not all night but 4 am!
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post #2 of 68
7/10/10 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by mindy1204

Help me understand what happened. I made her recipe as written, I did double it in my kitchen aid. I crumb coated and it wasnt dry after 30 minutes so I put them in the fridge for about 5 min, took it out waited 5 min and frosted and stacked. I almost immediatley got bubbles and where it didnt bubble is started melting off the cake. It was a terrible mess!

So at 1 am, I unstacked my cakes, and had hubby run to the store and made all shortening based buttercream and re-iced. This morning they are fine. I'm confused...Indydebi's IS and all shortening based buttercream?? What recipe did you use?

I do live in Fl but the humidity is ok today, I used this recipe last week when it had rained for 4 days straight and the humidity was 100% so I do not think it was that. Did the fridge have anything to do with it?
I have posted SEVERAL times that this icing DOES NOT like the fridge. I've only had issues with a cake the ONE time that I put one in the fridge. Yep..bet that was your problem...Also, was your cake frozen, partially frozen or cold when you crumbcoated?
Thanks, it was my first ever all nighter on a cake... ok not all night but 4 am!

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This is the most "humidity friendly" icing that I've ever used and it is VERY hot and humid where I live. But this icing doesn't like the fridge especially if you live where it's hot and humidity is an issue. thumbs_up.gif
Also if you crumbcoat or ice a frozen, partially frozen or cold cake it will take forever to crust. It takes the cake forever to reach room temperature if you ice it frozen or very cold.
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post #3 of 68
7/10/10 at 11:44am
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I did the all shortening recipe without the dreamwhip basically the wilton without merg. The cakes were defrosted I had taken them out at about one and started working on the at 6 so that wasn't the issue. Probably putting them in the fridge! Thanks lesson learned!
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post #4 of 68
7/10/10 at 11:49am
I'm pretty sure the dream whip helps with the crusting... I never leave it out of her recipe!
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post #5 of 68
7/10/10 at 12:00pm
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I didn't leave it out the first time and the second time I switched to the wilton recipe
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post #6 of 68
7/10/10 at 12:10pm
i never use meringue powder in my american icing. i use butter , shortening(yes, crisco) little salt, 10x powder sugar, and whipping cream. it crust great. it smooths great with the viva paper towel. i,m smoothing it within 5 min. of icing it. i have to have a little butter in my recipe. don,t use dream whip or anything like that. have tried indydebi's recipe. beat the devil out of it. still grainy. we all like different taste in our b/c. that is fine. so we have to use what is good for us and our clients. too many recipes on this site. shows we all like different icings. i love sharon zambito's recipe. it is good for hot , humid weather. so many others are on this site.
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post #7 of 68
7/10/10 at 12:59pm
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I didn't leave it out the first time and the second time I switched to the wilton recipe
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post #8 of 68
7/10/10 at 1:07pm
I also live in AR and always put my cakes in the fridge, and have never had a problem with Indydebi's recipe, had to have been the Dreamwhip? detective.gif
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post #9 of 68
7/10/10 at 1:24pm
I live in North Carolina (can you say humidity???) and indydebi's is the only frosting I use!! I NEVER refrigerate it, and I've never had a problem with it.....
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post #10 of 68
7/10/10 at 1:47pm
I'm in Fl too and I only use her recipe. I also ALWAYS put my cakes in the fridge with no problems!
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post #11 of 68
7/10/10 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by Karen421

I also live in AR and always put my cakes in the fridge, and have never had a problem with Indydebi's recipe, had to have been the Dreamwhip? detective.gif



I'm not so lucky...even Indydebi has said that she had trouble with the "two" that she refrigerated. icon_lol.gif I can't get it to crust for crap when I put it in the fridge. It took literally 5 or 6 hours for a cake to crust once that I iced cold then put back into the fridge. The icing felt firm when I took it from the fridge. Of course it was firm...because the shortening had solidified...I of course mistook that for "crusting". Once it had been out of the fridge for a few minutes the icing felt "wet" and STAYED that way for what seemed like forever. LOL Then when I went to put the final coat of icing on the crumbcoat tried to come off with the icing that I was trying to put ON the cake...huge mess...I will NEVER refrigerate another cake. icon_lol.gif
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post #12 of 68
7/10/10 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by SPCC

I'm in Fl too and I only use her recipe. I also ALWAYS put my cakes in the fridge with no problems!



Really? icon_confused.gif Edna also lives in Florida and says that she doesn't refrigerate her cakes because of the humidity issues. Strange how some can get by doing this and some can't. I remember her posting that she never refrigerates her cakes once they've been filled in a thread where we were discussing the issues with humidity.
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post #13 of 68
7/10/10 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by mindy1204

I did the all shortening recipe without the dreamwhip basically the wilton without merg. The cakes were defrosted I had taken them out at about one and started working on the at 6 so that wasn't the issue. Probably putting them in the fridge! Thanks lesson learned!



One more question...did you use Dream Whip or another brand of powdered whipped topping?
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post #14 of 68
7/10/10 at 6:20pm
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Originally Posted by Karen421

I also live in AR and always put my cakes in the fridge, and have never had a problem with Indydebi's recipe, had to have been the Dreamwhip? detective.gif



I'm not so lucky...even Indydebi has said that she had trouble with the "two" that she refrigerated. icon_lol.gif I can't get it to crust for crap when I put it in the fridge. It took literally 5 or 6 hours for a cake to crust once that I iced cold then put back into the fridge. The icing felt firm when I took it from the fridge. Of course it was firm...because the shortening had solidified...I of course mistook that for "crusting". Once it had been out of the fridge for a few minutes the icing felt "wet" and STAYED that way for what seemed like forever. LOL Then when I went to put the final coat of icing on the crumbcoat tried to come off with the icing that I was trying to put ON the cake...huge mess...I will NEVER refrigerate another cake. icon_lol.gif



You know, I have never not refrigerating - I think I will do an experiment and try it next week, and see what the buttercream does. Maybe I will be converted!!! icon_lol.gif
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post #15 of 68
7/10/10 at 6:44pm
I don't refrigerate my cakes normally, unless it is because of the filling. What do you do if the filling is bavarian cream or something similiar if you don't ever refrigerate them? I think my brain is frozen. I am in NE and who knows what the weather will be like from week to week.
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