Indydebi Buttercream

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Joshua_Alan Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 2:31am
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Looks thick to me, but it's hard to tell from a picture. It's going to be a bit of a personal preference thing too. What's your goal with this? Piping or spreading? If you're spreading, I'd think it needs to be thinner, piping it might be just fine.

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mom2twogrlz Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 4:28am
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K. That is what I was thinking. I used a tad more milk and I think I will be perfect for a damn. Then I will add a little more if needed for spreading.

I tasted it, and WOW...a buttercream I actually like. I have tried several different recipes and have never liked them, so this one is a keeper!!! I should have known, Indydebi is the Buttercream Goddess after all!!!!

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mamawrobin Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 5:03am
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I agree looks a little thick to me as well. I always add the least amount of milk that the recipe calls for then add a little at a time after that until I "get it right" icon_lol.gif It does taste really good doesn't it?? I love the taste of this icing and it is a dream to work with.

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lynda-bob Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 5:39am
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I need serious HELP!! icon_cry.gif I am making a switch in recipes because I'm in TX and the humidity along w/ no trans-fat shortening is killing me. I made some of Indydebi's icing and while the taste is ok to me, I cannot get it to smooth perfectly like my old buttercream used to. (Please don't go by any of my photos; I don't have any recent ones up.) What am I doing wrong? I've followed all the tips I've seen on this thread, as well as another about the IBC (Indydebi BC) but I just can't work with it. Maybe I'm leaving it too thick, as well? I added the 1/2 cup of whole milk; do I need more? Can someone post a pic of a cake they've used this icing on, where the cake is perfectly smooth? I know I probably sound nuts, but I'm on the edge! HELP!!! icon_cry.gif Anyone Please? icon_redface.gif

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mamawrobin Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:26am
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Originally Posted by lynda-bob

I need serious HELP!! icon_cry.gif I am making a switch in recipes because I'm in TX and the humidity along w/ no trans-fat shortening is killing me. I made some of Indydebi's icing and while the taste is ok to me, I cannot get it to smooth perfectly like my old buttercream used to. (Please don't go by any of my photos; I don't have any recent ones up.) What am I doing wrong? I've followed all the tips I've seen on this thread, as well as another about the IBC (Indydebi BC) but I just can't work with it. Maybe I'm leaving it too thick, as well? I added the 1/2 cup of whole milk; do I need more? Can someone post a pic of a cake they've used this icing on, where the cake is perfectly smooth? I know I probably sound nuts, but I'm on the edge! HELP!!! icon_cry.gif Anyone Please? icon_redface.gif




I would add about a teaspoon of milk at a time until I have a creamy, fluffy consistency. The "fluffieness" that I'm talking about is probably the Dream Whip in the icing but it does have kind of a "fluffy" look to it. If my camera wasn't broken I would send you a photo of my icing and how it looks because I have no problems smoothing this icing COMPLETELY smooth using the viva paper towel. I was never able to get a cake that smooth until I started using this icing recipe. Try adding a little extra milk and see if that doesn't help.

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dcarylmk Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 3:03pm
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Two questions? #1 Just made the buttercream, beat the crisco 15 minutes and then added 1 cup milk and the rest of the ingredients and beat an additional 20 minutes and it tastes gritty! I did sift the powdered sugar. Any thoughts? #2 Can I store this icing in the freezer? Thanks for any help in advance.

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mamawrobin Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 5:39pm
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What brand of powdered sugar did you use? I use either Domino or CH for the best results...some of the cheaper brands are beet sugar rather than cane sugar and also may have more cornstarch added. The brand can cause your icing to be "gritty". I do warm my milk (I use half and half instead) before adding. You may try that as well.

You can store in the freezer but this icing will hold fine for at least two weeks in an airtight container at room temperature. Even with the milk..it's safe to store in on the counter, no need to refrigerate.

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dcarylmk Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 6:53pm
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I usually use Domino but this time used an off brand of powdered sugar. Will try again with the Domino. Thanks for the info!!! icon_biggrin.gif

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GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 6:54pm
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Two questions? #1 Just made the buttercream, beat the crisco 15 minutes and then added 1 cup milk and the rest of the ingredients and beat an additional 20 minutes and it tastes gritty! I did sift the powdered sugar. Any thoughts? #2 Can I store this icing in the freezer? Thanks for any help in advance.


This is what I do and works great fo me, always comes out smooth...I put my crisco in mixer bowl and start it on low, about 2 minutes in I add milk[ warm] let mix in a little at a time I add in dream whip let it mix in, add extract, move to med speed and let it go for about 10 min. It looks like really creamy cream cheese at this stage, I cut it off and start adding my PS about 1/3 at a time mix till wet and you have it all in, then mixer speed back up and let it go for 10 -15 more minutes,,comes out very smooth.. Did you use cane sugar or beet sugar

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dcarylmk Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:01pm
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I just checked the bag. It's called Bakers and Chefs ultra fine PS from Sam's Club. Ingredients: Aha!!! Sugar and cornstarch!!!!

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GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:03pm
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I usually use Domino but this time used an off brand of powdered sugar. Will try again with the Domino. Thanks for the info!!! icon_biggrin.gif


Mamawrobin is right, Domino, C&H are great but I also use Sam's Club PS and still turns out great. Don't give up we all have our off day's trust me I do icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

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GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:10pm
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I just checked the bag. It's called Bakers and Chefs ultra fine PS from Sam's Club. Ingredients: Aha!!! Sugar and cornstarch!!!!


They put around 3% cornstarch in all PS it keeps it from caking,, but cheaper brands like mamawrobin said may have more cornstarch in it..

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badkitty Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by mamawrobin

What brand of powdered sugar did you use? I use either Domino or CH for the best results...some of the cheaper brands are beet sugar rather than cane sugar and also may have more cornstarch added. The brand can cause your icing to be "gritty".




What's important isn't actually if the sugar comes from beets or cane, what matters is HOW the ps is processed, some cane sugar is processed on old machinery and has larger amounts of cornstarch added, some beet sugar is processed on newer or better machinery and has a lower percent of cornstarch. I've used cane sugar that was just grainy and awful. The beet sugar I use is processed on new machinery, in a more thorough manner and has a low percent of cornstarch.

I may be fairly new to sophisticated cake decorating, but I've been baking and making icing for 40 years. Have used local beet sugar almost exclusively and I've always gotten great feedback about how smooth my icing is.

So to quit rambling icon_wink.gif my point is, just because it's cane sugar, that doesn't mean it might not be the problem if your icing is coming out grainy and gross. Wish they would put the actual percent of cornstarch on the label!!! icon_biggrin.gif

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dcarylmk Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:39pm
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I know that I have used the PS from Sam's before with my other icing recipes and have never had a problem with the icing tasting gritty. I will try this recipe again because so many people here on CC love it. I'm not one to give up. icon_biggrin.gif

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tanu Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:45pm
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[quote="mamawrobin"][quote="tanu"]Hey! does this recipe work well with any flavoring? I mean can u add a certain amount of something like caramel or fruit flavorings and it will still hold up and crust well? Im a newbie and want to try a good basic bc recipe which is easy to tweak (flavorwise). And do u use this recipe for both filling as well as piping decorations?

Thanks!!!
I've added raspberry puree....but you'll need to adjust the amount of milk when you do this so that you don't add too much liquid. If you don't you'll not get the same crusting . If I add 1/4 cup of the puree I cut the amount of milk by 1/4 cup...etc. I would think that adding caramel would be about the same as adding chocolate...but since I've never done that I'm not really sure. I haven't done alot of "tweaking" to this recipe because it is just THAT GOOD left as it is.


Thanks!! ill try to adjust the liquid.....will try it very soon!!! if i can do it then i guess it will really prove to be fool proof! lol

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badkitty Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:48pm
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I always disolve the Dreamwhip in the milk first...haven't ever made it without doing that, don't know if that might affect the texture or not...but good luck and I hope it works out for you. It really is a fantastic recipe!

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JaeRodriguez Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:52pm
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lynda-bob- go look at mamawrobin's cakes, she uses indy's icing and all of hers are fabulously smooth!

dcary- the only time indy's icing went wrong for me was off brand PS and when I tried to refrigerate between crumb coat and icing! Just my two cents!

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dcarylmk Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:53pm
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That's funny, I was just thinking that I wonder how long I had that Dream Whip in the cupboard and checked the box but it expires in Oct,2010. I had just gone through my boxes of cake mixes after I read that there was an expiration date on those. Never really thought about it before then. icon_smile.gif

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cakegroove Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 7:55pm
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I use non-dairy powdered creamer mixed with hot water (per instructions on the container) in place of milk. I got this idea from Sharon Zambito. Works like a charm for me

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dcarylmk Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 10:59pm
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Success!! I made 3 batches total. First batch, disgusting, used off brand PS, it was gritty. Batch #2 Used Domino PS, Half and Half, and 1/4 tsp salt along with the Dream Whip and flavorings ....very good! Batch #3 Used Domino PS, the creamora mixture,dissolved the dream whip in the liquid, flavoring and added 1/4 tsp Popcorn salt (this is a finer salt).....Super Yummy!!! icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif Thank you all for your help. Still want to try the Sam's PS one more time but definetly have lots of Icing now! Better bake a cake! LOL!

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mamawrobin Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 11:08pm
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lynda-bob- go look at mamawrobin's cakes, she uses indy's icing and all of hers are fabulously smooth!

dcary- the only time indy's icing went wrong for me was off brand PS and when I tried to refrigerate between crumb coat and icing! Just my two cents!




I've said it before...the ONLY time I've had issues is the time I refrigerated a cake. For the best results with this icing..keep it OUT of the fridge. Jae's right about this for sure thumbs_up.gif

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justkist Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 11:15pm
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I am so glad to decided to ask my question.. I have wanted to know for MONTHS a good receipe that didnt need to go in the fridge. I posted this question and had TONS of great feedback in a couple of hours. I really want to thank to "pros" who take the time to teach and mentor us newbies through this site. No course could ever teach me as much asI have learned just browsing this site!

I found the dream whip powder tonight and look forward to testing and not refridgerating tomorrow. Will let you know how I make out.

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mamawrobin Posted 9 Jul 2010 , 11:25pm
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What brand of powdered sugar did you use? I use either Domino or CH for the best results...some of the cheaper brands are beet sugar rather than cane sugar and also may have more cornstarch added. The brand can cause your icing to be "gritty".



What's important isn't actually if the sugar comes from beets or cane, what matters is HOW the ps is processed, some cane sugar is processed on old machinery and has larger amounts of cornstarch added, some beet sugar is processed on newer or better machinery and has a lower percent of cornstarch. I've used cane sugar that was just grainy and awful. The beet sugar I use is processed on new machinery, in a more thorough manner and has a low percent of cornstarch.

I may be fairly new to sophisticated cake decorating, but I've been baking and making icing for 40 years. Have used local beet sugar almost exclusively and I've always gotten great feedback about how smooth my icing is.

So to quit rambling icon_wink.gif my point is, just because it's cane sugar, that doesn't mean it might not be the problem if your icing is coming out grainy and gross. Wish they would put the actual percent of cornstarch on the label!!! icon_biggrin.gif




Absolutely..that's why I said that the brand that she used may have MORE
powdered sugar and could be why her icing was "gritty". The only "off" brand of ps that I use is a Dollar General store brand and it works just fine. I don't know whether it's cane or beet sugar but my icing is never grainy or gritty when I use that brand.

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indydebi Posted 10 Jul 2010 , 2:47am
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I've been gone from home for a few hours, but here is a link with photos of me making my icing, including the Finger-Poke test to determine if it's too wet or too dry.

http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-650745-finger.html

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Joshua_Alan Posted 10 Jul 2010 , 3:23am
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So, looked at the thread, good info. But, do you beat the crisco for 15 minutes or the icing itself for 15 minutes?

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indydebi Posted 10 Jul 2010 , 3:33am
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So, looked at the thread, good info. But, do you beat the crisco for 15 minutes or the icing itself for 15 minutes?




"Until it looks right". icon_biggrin.gif

If I'm in a hurry, I'll beat it 5 minutes or so. If I'm not in a hurry, I'd turn on the mixer and go next door to Family Dollar and pick up a few things. That's what I love about this recipe ..... pretty much no matter what you do to it, it works.

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Joshua_Alan Posted 10 Jul 2010 , 3:47am
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Cool! Thank you!

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lynda-bob Posted 10 Jul 2010 , 7:45am
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HOLY COW! I'm in love w/ Mamawrobin and Indydebi! I finally got it to work! I added a teeny bit more warm milk than the half cup. It was smooth and came out almost perfect w/o a crumbcoat even! Thank you Thank you Thank you, Ladies! icon_biggrin.gif

p.s. I'm going to try a batch each w/ the cremora and the half-n-half! icon_biggrin.gif

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mamawrobin Posted 10 Jul 2010 , 8:06am
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Originally Posted by lynda-bob

HOLY COW! I'm in love w/ Mamawrobin and Indydebi! I finally got it to work! I added a teeny bit more warm milk than the half cup. It was smooth and came out almost perfect w/o a crumbcoat even! Thank you Thank you Thank you, Ladies! icon_biggrin.gif

p.s. I'm going to try a batch each w/ the cremora and the half-n-half! icon_biggrin.gif




thumbs_up.gif Good deal...I remember how I felt when I "got it to work" for the first time. I had to make this icing about 3 times before I got it "right". I just love the way you can get it so smooth. Before my "love affair" with this icing I couldn't smooth the icing on a cake for squat. icon_lol.gif

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GHOST_USER_NAME Posted 10 Jul 2010 , 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by indydebi

I've been gone from home for a few hours, but here is a link with photos of me making my icing, including the Finger-Poke test to determine if it's too wet or too dry.

http://cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-650745-finger.html


Looked at the photos, did the Finger-Poke test, but then had to do the Taste Test didn't want to have any quality control issue's LOL..like alway's Indydebi you Rock thumbs_up.gifthumbs_up.gif

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