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jqorso Posted 8 Jun 2010 , 10:28pm
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I second the Wilton fondant for when you are just learning to use fondant. It's a good way to see what it should feel like. I'd cover one with Wilton, then have a ball of Wilton on hand to compare with your MMF for the next.

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ozgirl42 Posted 8 Jun 2010 , 10:49pm
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Here in Australia fondant reigns supreme. It would seem that it's not a celebration cake unless it's covered a fruit cake covered in marzipan and fondant! I am slowly converting my customers to think outside the square and choose different flavours. BUT I love working with fondant. So here's my two cents worth...
*To cut the cake board the right size use your cake pan. This will give you the correct size for what the cake should be. As it cooks and cools it shrinks a little so standard sized cake boards don't always fit.
* I use chocolate ganache A LOT. It gives a really nice surface to work on, and the fondant sticks to it nicely.
* Roll your fondant to the thickness you feel comfortable using. (I can roll my really thin after all these years; lots of practice) and drape over your cake; but don't elevate the cake yet. Gently work from the top and smooth with your hands across the top then I do the same to the top of the sides. this stops the fondant from pulling and stretching from the top. Then do the shuffle for the bottom. It's a matter of adjusting and gently stretching and that takes a bit of practice. But be gentle and take it slow.
If you raise the cake before you get to this point the weight of the fondant will pull and tear the sides.
* Once all the fondant is adhered to the sides cut most of the excess off and raise the cake onto a tin/bowl/stand and cut the rest of the fondant off using the cake board ( like you would trim the pastry on an apple pie). The combination of fondant and crumbcoating should now mean that your cake is equal to your board.
I don't know about you but I work much better when I can see someone do it and try it for myself. If you can get to a class or know someone who works with fondant who can show you grab it with both sugar coated hands!
I haven't tried using buttercream (except as a crumb coat) so am absolutely clueless when it comes to that medium. So Ill have to have a bash and practice it.
Persevere with it and don't beat yourself up. We all had to start somewhere. I think your check pattern is great and you're being far too hard on yourself. Feel free to PM me.
Cheers
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Herekittykitty Posted 8 Jun 2010 , 11:00pm
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Bettina,
Thank you for the detailed directions and the PM offer. I just watched some videos and while it seems like I did everything they did, somewhere I went wrong, obviously. I am definately going to try raising the cake up for the next round (of bigger cakes).

Now, time to go home to finish my cake - it's raining here so the sculpted pieces go on whether they are dry or not, I'm done with this puppy!

Finished pics tomorrow.

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Herekittykitty Posted 8 Jun 2010 , 11:03pm
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They are open to the public and ever since I found that store I think I have just been coming up with excuses to go there and buy more stuff icon_smile.gif I know they also offer private lesson's too but I think they are $30/hr. They are located in Fridley but I drive from Lindstrom just to go there because I completely agree with you on needing more options than just Michaels and Joanne!! icon_biggrin.gif




Do they have high-ratio?

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metria Posted 8 Jun 2010 , 11:21pm
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my fav youtube videos for fondant:

This lady is awesome:


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JulieMN Posted 8 Jun 2010 , 11:59pm
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Are they open to the public? When Sweet Celebrations went out of business I almost cried. icon_cry.gif




I used to go to the SC store in Minnetonka..still miss that place becuase of their selection, classes and staff. I did go to their going out of business sale at the warehouse but didn't get much as it had all been picked through. Still miss that place, because of their selection and their staff.

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I hear there's another store called Kitchen Window that was opened by the same guy that used to do the fondant classes at Sweet Celebrations. I've been meaning to check it out, I think it's a ways away from me though. Not sure if they have a huge selection of cake decorating stuff though.




KW is in Uptown Minneapolis. Nice store, fun shopping, some cake related stuff, but not their primary mission.

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Thanks for the tip, I'll stop at Target tonight to see if they have Dream whip.




If you don't find it at Target....I found it at Rainbow.

HTH

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stacyllind Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 12:10am
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Do they have high-ratio?




I didn't check because I actually had never heard about it until I found CC icon_biggrin.gif If you find some there let me know because I would be interested in picking some up too!

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Rose_N_Crantz Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 12:12am
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Maybe we could all carpool to Fridley to check out that cake store! icon_biggrin.gif

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stacyllind Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 12:14am
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Maybe we could all carpool to Fridley to check out that cake store! icon_biggrin.gif


I can always find a reason for a trip to Lynn's!!

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JulieMN Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 12:36am
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Maybe we could all carpool to Fridley to check out that cake store! icon_biggrin.gif

I can always find a reason for a trip to Lynn's!!




Oh but the $$$ I leave in that store! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif It is so nice to have a local place to get beyond the craft store selection of caking supplies.

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Lcubed82 Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 3:22am
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"drape over your cake; but don't elevate the cake yet. "

This is probably the solution to my stretching problems (fondant, that is!)

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Herekittykitty Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by JulieMN

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Maybe we could all carpool to Fridley to check out that cake store! icon_biggrin.gif

I can always find a reason for a trip to Lynn's!!



Oh but the $$$ I leave in that store! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif It is so nice to have a local place to get beyond the craft store selection of caking supplies.




I am so in! icon_biggrin.gif

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Herekittykitty Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 2:41pm
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Ta-Da! It came out cuter than I expected (as long as you don't look at the back shhh.gif ), you almost don't notice the wonky fondant and painting.

Fruit except for cherry is fondant, ice cream is fondant "scooped" with a cookie scoop, chocolate is melted candy melts. Nuts are nuts. Only thing not edible is the bowl and piece of parchment it is sitting on.

Thanks for all the advice. I can't wait to try it out on a larger, and hopefully more manageble, cake.
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mamawrobin Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 3:05pm
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I watched a video on youtube from Planet Cake. It shows how to cover a round cake with fondant and it looks so easy. Check it out! HTH!
BTW...I love the bow video they do. It is soooo easy and I can make a bow in less than 4 minutes now!




This is why I always suggest Planet Cake's "How Do I Cover A Cake With Fondant?" video when I see questions like this posted. Great tutorial thumbs_up.gif

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tmac670 Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 3:10pm
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Wait. Those bananas aren't real????? Really? Amazing!

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stacyllind Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 3:11pm
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Originally Posted by lcubed82

"drape over your cake; but don't elevate the cake yet. "

This is probably the solution to my stretching problems (fondant, that is!)




Now if we could only find a better solution for the "other" stretching problems icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

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kaseysweetkissbakery Posted 10 Jun 2010 , 3:50pm
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THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERYTIME I TRY TO USE FONDANT!!! I FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATION!!

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HunneyBEE Posted 14 Jun 2010 , 8:34pm
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I had the same problem at first...Then I bought this DVD...Flawless Fondant By Sharon Zambito..
This DVD fixed ALL of my fondant problems!!!!

But this..It WILL help you!!!
It was recommended to me by another CC user and I am sooo thankful for it!!!


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itbjhills Posted 14 Jun 2010 , 11:42pm
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When my husband and I tried to do fondant the first time, we used Wilton too. We did a 10" heart shape (of all the things for a first try...) amazingly - it was perfect! ...and not a single heart shape has ever come out so beautifully since! lol
We use MMF now and it seems to work a bit better in our climate, but it takes some doing no matter what. I have found that if it is too dry, or too overworked, it tends to crack and fold more. I think humidity and temperature have a lot to do with it to. Sometimes a little tweaking will get it just right.
To keep it from sticking, we'll *lightly* crisco a surface which seems to help. A pinch of crisco on our hands helps keep it from sticking to us, and keeps it pliable.
We don't always have cake boards that are perfectly cut (ie: bottom tiers...) so we use a pizza cutter to cut it around the base. For me, it will tuck the cut edge under the cake neatly so my borders don't seem like they're all hanging out.
I think your cake turned out wonderfully! The fruit and the top look so great that I never would notice the bottom if you hadn't told us! Anyways, what is a cake for, except to be aww'ed at and eaten!

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noahsmummy Posted 15 Jun 2010 , 1:47am
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sooooo; if i could just cme and give everyone who has shared tips a giant hug right now.. i so would. and michelle foster.. yeah, id basically crash tackle you to the ground and give you the biggest bear hug.


i almost gave up on fondant. almost. tried every recipe. and it always ended in disaster. until i came across mff. oh.my. gosh. im in love. deadset in love.

i just almost perfectly covered a surboard shaped cake in fondant. i am so proud. lol. the only thing wrong is at the bottom with the edges, as i already had the cake on a board and couldnt do the whole elevate so you tuck the edges thing (def. be doing this next time) not a rip not a tear, not a pleat not a bubble. and i dont even have fondant smoothers (yes, i enjoy making life difficult...lol).

so thankyou. thank you so much. im going to power on through this fondant learning curve... next step.. a fondant pot for next week. can i do it? i beleive with the beautiful people of cc i can. icon_smile.gif

thankyouuuuuuu.

*please note if i come off crazy.. its because this caking high has overwhelmed my brain.. haha.

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Herekittykitty Posted 16 Jun 2010 , 11:15pm
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When my husband and I tried to do fondant the first time, we used Wilton too. ... I think your cake turned out wonderfully! The fruit and the top look so great that I never would notice the bottom if you hadn't told us! Anyways, what is a cake for, except to be aww'ed at and eaten!




Used Wilton in class - Once. Then again to make an elephant and cover a cake borad for another. Haven't touched it since - the chemical smell is just too much.

I do have another fondant recipe that I use (for modeling not covering because we have all seen how that goes icon_rolleyes.gif ) given to us by our Wilton teacher but it takes FOREVER to make and uses glucose which is so messy. Plus I thought MMF would taste amazing (who doesn't like MM's?). It did taste great but am going to try MFF next - maybe more suitable for my ham fisted self.

Thank you for the kind words about the cake - overall it wasn't too disapointing (seriously though, the back is a mess) and my neighbor raved about the Banana split flavor so in the end it is a win. But more practice is needed.

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Herekittykitty Posted 16 Jun 2010 , 11:17pm
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Originally Posted by CreativeKandace

I had the same problem at first...Then I bought this DVD...Flawless Fondant By Sharon Zambito..
This DVD fixed ALL of my fondant problems!!!!

But this..It WILL help you!!!
It was recommended to me by another CC user and I am sooo thankful for it!!!


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I am almost on the sugarshack bandwagon. I have heard such great things and like her youtube videos so the DVD's are probably even better. thumbs_up.gif

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