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post #16 of 37
Invite her to shop other bakeries to find out pricing. Have her provide you with written quotes and you can beat their pricing.....BUT there is no way she can have a wedding cake for 200 people for $300. Please dont short your talents. If she does not want to pay then tell her that you are unable to provide her with a wedding cake.
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post #17 of 37
You may remember a previous story I told on here. It went something like this, "BB & G (at wedding show) "We have 200 guests and a cake budget of $300. What can you do for that?"
Me, "Frankly, nothing."
B&G, "OK, we oculd go $400." See, that budget is starting to go out the window.
Me, "Unfortunately, still nothing. My base price is going to be $600, and there's still an equipment fee and delivery fee on top of that. I'd suggest to try a neighborhood bakery or possibly WalMart."

I didn't get the job, but then I didn't want the job either.

Frankly, my year is a wee bit slower than last year, but I'm not going to pay someone to let me work for them. Naps are nice. Time for marketing is a good thing.
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post #18 of 37
I'm going to be airbrushing a stencil on a buttercream cake soon for the first time...I imagine having a nice cold cake will work fine, doing a tier at a time. I've done only two fondant cakes in stencils...one using royal icing and one using airbrush.

The lady's budget stinks though...my BASE price is $3/serving and that only includes plain buttercream and a ribbon. Maybe swiss dots if I'm in a good mood.

Stenciling is a pain especially if you haven't done too much of it so...I definitely would never make a cake for 200, all stenciled, for only $300. I'd rather spend the weekend with my kids. Send this chick far away unless you can get her to "remember" the correct budget.
post #19 of 37
You set your prices, not your client. Certainly work within their budget if you can...give them alternatives to stick within it. But, don't lower your price because it is outside of their budget.

Imagine how unhappy you will be when you deliver a cake that you didn't get paid what you should for and see a company setting up their 1,000.00 photobooth at the venue.
post #20 of 37
True!
I always request a picture of the bride's gown prior to the appointment. When I get sent a designer dress that I know costs upwards of $3K and they've rented a $1500 room at the venue, then I do a fairly upscale design to start with. I know there's $ in there somewhere.
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post #21 of 37
If it is to be buttercream frosting and the design doesnt need to be raised off the frosting, I would defenitely consider an edible frosting sheet printed with the design. You could fit her budget and would be a huge timesaver for you as well.
post #22 of 37
Photo, I was going to suggest that as well, but still......$300 for 200 people??!! icon_rolleyes.gif I would make her increase her budget. The last thing you want is to become the baker that does $300 cakes for 200 guests! Or...maybe you DO want that. If so, go for it!! thumbs_up.gif But I'd say, you'll be busy busy busy and won't make much money money money!!
post #23 of 37
icon_eek.gif 200 servings for 300 bucks..... someone had better get kissed when that cake is delivered icon_surprised.gif
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post #24 of 37
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone! I sent her a very polite email suggesting I put her in contact with another baker that perhaps is more within her restrictions. She hasn't emailed me back to say whether or not she'd like to contact this person. I did offer her other options in the $500 range and she said that was still too much, when I finally asked her what her budget was she told me $300 or less because they are doing everything themselves. I can understand that because my husband and I paid for our wedding ourselves too BUT the two things we didn't skimp on was the dress & the cake!! She did agree to only 3 tiers from 5 at one point but now I'm kinda fed up, I've spent 2 wks trying to help her out and I'm getting no where (but frustrated). Below is the email I sent to her hoping to put her off me doing the cake.

"Hello. I'm glad you still want me to do your cake however, since we still have time and aren't easily able to find the right fit with a cake design I had an idea. I have a friend on FB that also does cakes, she actually taught me some basic classes when I first started out. She a Wilton instructor, has her own cake business and she has been doing wedding cakes for probably close to or more then 10 yrs. I know she has quite a few albums full of different cakes to choose from and can do just about anything you want. If you would like, I can put you in contact with her through FB and you can see what she has to offer, maybe she will be able to do what you'd truly like on your budget since she probably has most, if not all the supplies (which I don't). I don't know what she charges but she may even be able to do the cake you first mentioned cheaper or something along those lines at your budget. I would hate to see you settle for a cake you didn't truly love and this will give you many, many more options. If you speak with her and see her work and decide you still want me to do your cake then maybe by then we will have a better idea on what direction to take. I think all brides should have the cake of their dreams on their wedding day and if I am not able to produce that then I am more then happy to direct you to someone who can icon_smile.gif If you would like to be put in contact with her please let me know and I would be more then happy to do so for you. If nothing else you can get another perspective on things and perhaps even find exactly what you want."
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post #25 of 37
just out of curiousity, did you ask her how many people she invited? If she invited 200, then you could use the 60% rule and probably get closer to her budget. Then you're only looking at about 120 servings instead of 200, big price difference.
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post #26 of 37
Thread Starter 
Her orignal quote was for 250 guests and I explained to her about not everyone coming and those that do may not eat cake since they are serving alcohol as well but she was firm at 200. They are fairly young and assume that everyone they have invited will surely be attending. I explained to her that as much as they would like that to be the case it often isn't but she wasn't willing to budge. I even stressed the issue of paying for servings that wouldn't be used and that they would end up having to eat or give away but she still wouldn't budge.
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post #27 of 37
You could always suggest a smaller cake with her design and then sheet cakes for the remainder.
post #28 of 37
I love the edible images idea...easy and within their budget!
post #29 of 37
We got our wedding cake for a complete steal -- it was ridiculously cheap! One thing that made it cheaper, however, was the fact that we had an additional dessert on top of the cake. See whether it might suit her budget more to get a cheap dessert (have a friend make it), and then, perhaps, a two-tiered cake, smaller, butter-cream cake?
post #30 of 37
I can admit that i have made cakes for close friends of mine for "steals"...for instance, i made a cake for a friend of mine for much less than it should have cost, and as a trade, got a good 100 very professional business cards in return. Most of the time i do them so cheap just to build my portfolio, honestly. A favor for a friend is one thing, but someone who is being inflexible is another...

Give her the walmart brochure.... icon_lol.gif
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