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Bride wants damask design but buttercream icing!!!!!

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I'm having trouble with a bride who wants me to do their cake. She picked out the Martha Stewart damask cake but wasn't willing to pay the price (big surprise) so she's given me a budget of $300 for 200 guests. Every design I've offered up she's shot down. She really wants a damask design to match the invites but she also wants buttercream because it's the cheaper choice. She wants an ivory cake with brown damask or possibly scrollwork with salmon and lime green ribbon around the bottom of each square tier. Any ideas??? Can stencils be used on buttercream without it pulling off??

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post #2 of 37
Wow!! Talk about a beer budget!! Is she getting some sheets for the back for $300 or just a tiered cake?? That's only $1.50 a serving. Cakes are cheap around here, but $2 is about the base price. I wouldn't do any fancy decoration past the ribbons for that price. She's going to have to settle on the money she wants to pay or the cake she wants to serve.

How to do the damask on buttercream? I really don't know how without fondant.

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post #3 of 37
OK, she has a budget of $300 for 200 guests--first of all, THAT'S HER PROBLEM, NOT YOURS.

Her budget dictates what she gets for a cake. You have no obligation to give her an $600 cake for $300.

Given her budget, she can't have what she wants. period.

What can you give her for that amount? Tell her and if she doesn't like the options, cut her loose.

You can stencil on buttercream, but it can be a time consuming and trying process--$$$$$$$$$$$--so with her budget, I wouldn't even offer it as a possibility.

If I go to a car dealer that sells BMWs and Fords and I want a BMW but can only afford the Ford, guess what I drive home in-----------NOT the BMW!!!!!!!!!!!

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post #4 of 37
There's actually a good video on the site here on how to do it.

http://cakecentral.com/articles/137/how-to-stencil-on-buttercream-video

I used the video to try it on a cake for a wedding renewal ceremony. It was a little scary because it was a black stencil on white buttercream, but it turned out really nice and wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.
post #5 of 37
Designer Stencils recommends using a crusting buttercream and chilling your cake at least 30 minutes before you stencil so the stencil doesn't stick. You use the same buttercream thinned down a bit to stencil with.
post #6 of 37
If she is set on buttercream....could you possibly do an edible damask frosting sheet like this: https://secure.lucks.com/bpcsom/nxcsc.nsf/ItemInformation?openagent&SID=AD815A26A1B2BB7888257714000E47C0&Item=45054&
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post #7 of 37
All of my damask stenciled cakes have been done in buttercream. I haven't had a problem yet. If you're not used to doing it, have someone hold the stencil for you while you apply the buttercream to the stencil. Just be sure not to get it too thick, and the stencil should come off fine. I personally love doing the buttercream stencils...quick and easy.
post #8 of 37
It can also be done as a rbct too...

cut strips of freezer or waxed paper the dimensions of the sides (if doing rounds, these strips can be sectioned off after stenciling then, aligned one at a time). Stencil in buttercream onto the paper strips...allow to set up in the freezer. After final coating the tier, apply the rbct strips (removing and applying one at a time from freezer).

They can also be done ahead of time in ri...stenciling onto LIGHTLY greased freezer/waxed/parchment paper (for round tiers or any otherwise curved tiers, simply attach strips to same size pan or dummy to dry...MAKE EXTRAS. Apply to sides of tier before icing has crusted.

The above is useful to those of us who are intimidated by the whole idea of apply contrasting colors directly to the cake surface...the thought of marring up the last or next to last section...OH! THE HORROR!
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post #9 of 37
Her budget is way too low for a damask style cake. For a stenciled fondant cake I charge $4.50 per serving and my base price is $4.00 per serving. I actually charge the same wether is BC or fondant.

I have stenciled on IMBC and it's a PITA. Haven't tried on crusting BC.

I just had a friend ask me this same question but her bride want non dairy icing....I suggested purchasing fondant damask cutters and placing them on the cake or making a stencil and cut out your fondant and placing on the cake.
post #10 of 37
I just did a damask stencil for a friend, I would tell this chickie to take a hikey!! icon_surprised.gif)
post #11 of 37
$300 for 200 guests?? She'd be lucky to get FROSTING on the cake, much less have it decorated! I don't even think I'd spend time smoothing the buttercream for $1.50 per person! It's always the ones with no budget who are the most demanding! I would tell her..."with your budget, this is what I can give you." If you give her the Martha cake for $300, you won't make a penny on the order once you factor in your time.
post #12 of 37
Good advice.

The bottom line is, her budget is her problem. She can't have what she wants for that amount of $. I want a new Esclade too, but I only have $8,000.
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post #13 of 37
Stick to your guns and pricing on this one. I agree with Leah that the bride's budget is her problem. You aren't obligated to accommodate a potential client's unrealistic budget. If she really wants the design and for you to do it, you'll be surprised at how quickly she can come up with the money. Is this her true budget or is she trying to see which baker will cave and give her a lowball price? I would let this one go.
post #14 of 37
I'm reminded of another thread I recently read on here. When a bride says, "I have 200 guests and $300. What can I get?"...show her a box of Twinkies! icon_lol.gifthumbs_up.gif

And tell her she'll have to cut them into thirds!! icon_biggrin.gif

Your bride needs a reality check. It's unfortunate that not every bride has the $$ for their dream wedding, but as others have said, that isn't your problem! I'd flat out (but politely) tell her..."Let's be realistic. The Martha cake is a XXXX dollar cake and there's simply no way it can be done for $300. Unless you increase your cake budget, you have to accept that you can't have the cake of your dreams. Now, let's talk about what we CAN do for $300."

I'd also show her what can be done for $500. You'd be amazed at how quickly the budget can go up a few hundred dollars for a nicer cake! (Realtors do this all the time. Budget of $250,000 and they'll show you a $350,000 house just so you can see what you're missing!)

In any case, take charge of the situation. If she doesn't bend, you might not get the order, but at least you won't lose money either!

And whatever cake you do for her for $300...remind her to cut THIN slices!! icon_lol.gif
post #15 of 37
I've used the stencils with buttercream over crusted buttercream with no problems. That being said - I still wouldn't let the bride dictate to me what she will get for what price!

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