Yet Another Twist To The Cricut/cricut Cake Story...
Decorating By PinkZiab Updated 4 May 2010 , 12:13am by Bugaboo_Bakery
I just went out and bought the deep cut blade for my $99.00 cricut and..ohhhhhhhhhhhh it still rips the fondant-gumpaste... any suggestions would be helpful... I set the blade on 6 with medium pressure....and my fondant is like paper thin....I use the mat that came with the cricut.... minus the sticky....cleaned it off the use veg. short. I just want to cut out letters..... thanks for any suggestions... I can see spending $400.00 is most of the forums said to just purchase the deep cut.... thanks in advance...
Let it dry for a loooong time, like an hour, before you cut it. Use the minimum speed and pressure that you can, and set the blade at about a 5 to start.
They must have talked to their legal department. Either that or there will be a new legal notice with every one sold - "If you purchased after April 15, 2010, you must have a license to sell cakes..." IDK - but I am happier to see the license thing gone from the website.
I went to the cricut site and scan through posts about cricut cake. Well, here's more drama...
It seems they "oversold" and the bundle and package. They ran out. So, if HSN doesn't receive anymore within 30 days, the order will be canceled by them. Wow!!!
Provo Craft is suing MTC. Google for info and when I did a lot of reading I found this. I am not a lawyer and can not concur if this is accurate.
But for your reading pleasure...
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/HallOfShame/CraftSites/Cricut/Cricut.shtml
and click through and read every link in blue on that page.
I have no idea if all of it is true or accurate, but I hope that it is. And if it is everyone can bend over to make it easier for PC to kiss butt.
Auntie - Print that out and keep it, please. Sounds to me like a good way to force everyone into a new sales agreement with a licensing clause or fee.
No problem...I thought it was crazy on CC, but the cricut board is just as crazy. Much discussion between the the Linda stuff and of course the license fee. There are some negative reviews on the HSN site about not disclosing the license stuff.
So all of us who have a message, "The machine is on back-order" and "you should receive by May 7th" are SOL???
This is very frustrating. I have never bought anything on HSN and I don't think I ever will again. 
THat's odd. HSN's website still lists it and will let you buy it. I'm a little concerned that my order was totally lost. I've not heard anything about it, and they've not charged my credit card.
Provo Craft is suing MTC. Google for info and when I did a lot of reading I found this. I am not a lawyer and can not concur if this is accurate.
But for your reading pleasure...
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/HallOfShame/CraftSites/Cricut/Cricut.shtml
and click through and read every link in blue on that page.
I have no idea if all of it is true or accurate, but I hope that it is. And if it is everyone can bend over to make it easier for PC to kiss butt.
Ooh, that's good stuff.
I had no idea that some people would not recieve it. I ordered it at midnight and my card was charged immediatly. I have not recieved anything saying it was on backorder so i guess i am ok
If the HSN oversold and is shipping out units already, I wonder how that effects those other sites that took pre-orders like cutncrop? Will they now be backordered too to compensate for those already going out? Cutncrop wasn't due to ship until May 1st?
So what grounds is Provocraft using to sue MTC? Imagine if the makers of hammers came back and said "You can't build and sell a house using the hammers we made" or those making buttons and materials said "you can't make and sell clothing from the products that we made?" Isn't that what our world evolves around? We use a product from one company, pair it with another when it meets our end needs, and we produce goods for ourselves or others.
If the HSN oversold and is shipping out units already, I wonder how that effects those other sites that took pre-orders like cutncrop? Will they now be backordered too to compensate for those already going out? Cutncrop wasn't due to ship until May 1st?
So what grounds is Provocraft using to sue MTC? Imagine if the makers of hammers came back and said "You can't build a sell a house using the hammers we made" or those making buttons and materials said "you can't make and sell clothing that we made?" Isn't that what our world evolves around? We use a product from one company, pair it with another when it meets our end needs, and we produce goods for ourselves or others.
Actually, the MTC lawsuit has little to use with software to use on the machine, but rather breaking the software that Provo Craft either sells or provides (I don't know that detail). More information (can be technical) is here: http://www.scrapbookupdate.com/2010/04/07/provo-craft-make-the-cut-the-technology-background/
Provo Craft is suing MTC. Google for info and when I did a lot of reading I found this. I am not a lawyer and can not concur if this is accurate.
But for your reading pleasure...
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/HallOfShame/CraftSites/Cricut/Cricut.shtml
and click through and read every link in blue on that page.
I have no idea if all of it is true or accurate, but I hope that it is. And if it is everyone can bend over to make it easier for PC to kiss butt.
Ooh, that's good stuff.
Sure is!!! Is everybody reading this...? You should be!
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THANKS for the link to that information on PC's legal mess!!! EVERYONE here should read it!
Here it is again:
http://www.tabberone.com/Trademarks/HallOfShame/CraftSites/Cricut/Cricut.shtml
I just went out and bought the deep cut blade for my $99.00 cricut and..ohhhhhhhhhhhh it still rips the fondant-gumpaste... any suggestions would be helpful... I set the blade on 6 with medium pressure....and my fondant is like paper thin....I use the mat that came with the cricut.... minus the sticky....cleaned it off the use veg. short. I just want to cut out letters..... thanks for any suggestions... I can see spending $400.00 is most of the forums said to just purchase the deep cut.... thanks in advance...
Mom, you do need to let your fondant/gumpaste sit and firm up for a few minutes. A friend was demo-ing her Cricut to me and her fondant was too flexible yet and it was tearing. After she let it sit out and firm up for about 10-15 minutes it worked much better.
Good luck!
Interesting. They have taken the professional licensing carts off of the cricut site.
VERY interesting as it was there earlier today. I found it this morning and sent the link to a couple friends of mine who use the cartridges for their cakes and cookies.
If the HSN oversold and is shipping out units already, I wonder how that effects those other sites that took pre-orders like cutncrop? Will they now be backordered too to compensate for those already going out? Cutncrop wasn't due to ship until May 1st?
So what grounds is Provocraft using to sue MTC? Imagine if the makers of hammers came back and said "You can't build a sell a house using the hammers we made" or those making buttons and materials said "you can't make and sell clothing that we made?" Isn't that what our world evolves around? We use a product from one company, pair it with another when it meets our end needs, and we produce goods for ourselves or others.
Actually, the MTC lawsuit has little to use with software to use on the machine, but rather breaking the software that Provo Craft either sells or provides (I don't know that detail). More information (can be technical) is here: http://www.scrapbookupdate.com/2010/04/07/provo-craft-make-the-cut-the-technology-background/
Thanks for the link. I read the information and it did make some good points but I still have to argue on behalf of the consumers of technology. Where should the line be drawn where as consumers, when we buy and own a product, we should be able to use it however we like. Imagine if Dell came up and said something like, "from now on those that buy our computers can only use programs and software that we will now be making. No more microsoft office but instead our own office products and no choices for any other other programs either.
Wow, it is just getting more and more confusing over time. I had Cricut Cake on my wish list but I don't think I'm going to buy any now. I really feel sorry for Linda though. I do believe that she was the one who introduced the technique to PC. I would like to know how this ends.
If the HSN oversold and is shipping out units already, I wonder how that effects those other sites that took pre-orders like cutncrop? Will they now be backordered too to compensate for those already going out? Cutncrop wasn't due to ship until May 1st?
So what grounds is Provocraft using to sue MTC? Imagine if the makers of hammers came back and said "You can't build a sell a house using the hammers we made" or those making buttons and materials said "you can't make and sell clothing that we made?" Isn't that what our world evolves around? We use a product from one company, pair it with another when it meets our end needs, and we produce goods for ourselves or others.
Actually, the MTC lawsuit has little to use with software to use on the machine, but rather breaking the software that Provo Craft either sells or provides (I don't know that detail). More information (can be technical) is here: http://www.scrapbookupdate.com/2010/04/07/provo-craft-make-the-cut-the-technology-background/
Thanks for the link. I read the information and it did make some good points but I still have to argue on behalf of the consumers of technology. Where should the line be drawn where as consumers, when we buy and own a product, we should be able to use it however we like. Imagine if Dell came up and said something like, "from now on those that buy our computers can only use programs and software that we will now be making. No more microsoft office but instead our own office products and no choices for any other other programs either.
All I have to say is, what about Apple? Can you put Mac OS X on a Dell? I don't think it's RIGHT, but I think PC has a case here.
It's also the same issue I have with my Kindle. Sure I can put books on it that I bought from other places, but I would either have to buy DRM-free books, or break the DRM, which is illegal.
Like I said, it's not RIGHT, but it's certainly something they can argue.
If the HSN oversold and is shipping out units already, I wonder how that effects those other sites that took pre-orders like cutncrop? Will they now be backordered too to compensate for those already going out? Cutncrop wasn't due to ship until May 1st?
So what grounds is Provocraft using to sue MTC? Imagine if the makers of hammers came back and said "You can't build a sell a house using the hammers we made" or those making buttons and materials said "you can't make and sell clothing that we made?" Isn't that what our world evolves around? We use a product from one company, pair it with another when it meets our end needs, and we produce goods for ourselves or others.
Actually, the MTC lawsuit has little to use with software to use on the machine, but rather breaking the software that Provo Craft either sells or provides (I don't know that detail). More information (can be technical) is here: http://www.scrapbookupdate.com/2010/04/07/provo-craft-make-the-cut-the-technology-background/
Thanks for the link. I read the information and it did make some good points but I still have to argue on behalf of the consumers of technology. Where should the line be drawn where as consumers, when we buy and own a product, we should be able to use it however we like. Imagine if Dell came up and said something like, "from now on those that buy our computers can only use programs and software that we will now be making. No more microsoft office but instead our own office products and no choices for any other other programs either.
There are still limits to what you can do in such a situation. As people have mentioned, PC does not seem to be suing the makers of SCA which gives many of the same features. I think the issue is in some of the new features that MTC added in, especially the backup feature. While freedom for consumers is essential, so is a company's rights to protect their products.
OMG this is all so crazy. I purcased my machine with cut n crop. Man, I hope the delivery date doesn't get pushed back. I think I might send them an emial to see if I can find out something.
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There are still limits to what you can do in such a situation. As people have mentioned, PC does not seem to be suing the makers of SCA which gives many of the same features. I think the issue is in some of the new features that MTC added in, especially the backup feature. While freedom for consumers is essential, so is a company's rights to protect their products.[/quote]
My guess is that PC may have worked in conjunction with SCAL early on and is making a percentage of sales/fees from SCAL where they aren't from MTC and that's why they're suing MTC. Possible???
From my understanding SCAL and MTC do not operate the same. MTC infringes upon PC's CDS software and imagery - and that is where the issue is.
Also this apears on SCAL's add/site
* "Cricut" is a trademark of Provo Craft & Novelty Inc. This site is not affiliated with Provo Craft & Novelty Inc.
MTC also used PC imagery and pictures of Cricut in their advertising and Demo which violates PC's right to their machine by copyright. So had MTC done things a little differently they wouldn't be sued. MTC lets you cut Cricut designs where SCAL does not. The differences are there and PC was watching. Though I don't think PC can hold the right to imagery of public domain.
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