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I yield to the topsy turvy demons!!!!

post #1 of 33
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I just want to sit in the corner and cry! After going through 9 cake mixes, 7 lbs of white chocolate, 20 eggs, and so much powdered sugar I lost count...... I give up! I've spent the last 4 days trying to make a surprise topsy turvy birthday cake for my son's girlfriend. I'd researched and studied for quite a while on how to make one, so I thought I was prepared.

I had no problems with the carving or crumb coating (used ganache by the way) I made sure the cake was thoroughly chilled before applying the fondant, but every cake began leaning and slouching and cracking apart after the fondant was applied. I used the durable 3D cake for carving recipe but I don't think the recipe was strong enough. I live at 4600 feet, so maybe the higher altitude was the culprit. I don't know! icon_cry.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gif

I've never had so many problems and now I'm nervous about making and new cakes at all! I kind of want to quit the whole cake making thing for a while!

We ended up going to Costco and buying a cake.... icon_mad.gif I did put the cute little gum paste daisies I'd made on top, but that was little consolation. Topsy turvy..... oh how I hate you! icon_evil.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gificon_cry.gif
post #2 of 33
Oh no! I am so sorry! I have never tried a TT cake, partly because of all of these horrible experiences I keep seeing on here! You keep trying, don't give up! I just know sometime soon somebody with some REAL experience with these TT cakes and some helpful advice is going to be here posting for ya and will help you figure out what went wrong. I completely understand how you feel, keep your head up.
Sorry I am not much help, just wanted to be supportive at least and say "we've all been there in some way or another"... hugs!
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post #3 of 33
Well join the team. I have not ever done fondant cake before and tried a topsy turvy for my first. They looked so great crumb coated. Then, well it was like being a child and watching in horror as your favorite balloon deflated slowly before my eyes. I felt maybe this cake thing has changed too much for me. Maybe someone can give us some hints.

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post #4 of 33
Sorry for all of the problems.......

Did you follow the tutorial here on CC? It was my saving grace when I did my first topsy.

http://cakecentral.com/articles/6/how-to-make-a-topsy-turvy-whimsical-cake

Did you put filling in the cake(s)? It's a good idea to avoid filling them--just stick them together with some buttercream.

I use WASC recipes and find them well suited to this type of cake.

Better luck with the next one!
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post #5 of 33
im so sorry this happend to you. i just peaked at your pics - you got some mad talent.
dont give up im sure you will work it out.
the wedding cake you did for your niece is ....amazing!! i give you alot of credit for first time. your flowers look so real.
let us know if you attempt another TT would love to see it!
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post #6 of 33
I've done a TT. For my first though, I didn't taper the tiers. It went ok (in my pics) I purchased the DVD from Sugarshack and am ready to use some of her techniques. Give it a breather, and then in a couple of months try one for fun so you don't have the pressure!! Good LUCK!!!
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post #7 of 33
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Thanks for the sympathy. I didn't even get to finish decorating the cake before it was beyond repair....

BlakesCakes: Yes, I studied that tutorial along with any others I could find. I used a whipped ganache for the filling, and it was sturdier then regular buttercream filling. So I don't think that was the problem. Maybe I should have used WASC. My WASC tends to turn out gummy and I just figured the Durable 3D recipe was a safer bet. Hmmmmmm?????

I did notice when I carved a hole in the bottom cake, I could already see the cake had a few cracks in it. The tall side of a TT is a lot heavier then the short side. How do you keep the cake stable when it wants to lean and tip to the heavy side?

If I can get them to show up.... here are a couple pictures of my disaster. This is the only section of the cake that was even salvageable.
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post #8 of 33
I looked through pictures here and the deflated look seems a common thing. TT I hate you. Your design was great. Love the "sock that needs pulled up" comment. I am going to try again. I did not use fillings. Just BC and white cake. Not sure what is happening. i am going to try a denser cake and longer settle time.

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post #9 of 33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHY_F53ClJ8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjanellscakes.blogspot.com%2F&feature=player_embedded

have you watched the above you tube video? It's from Janell's cakes, and it is how I learned. I watched the video over and over again, don't give upicon_smile.gif
post #10 of 33
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Originally Posted by jjkarm

I live at 4600 feet, so maybe the higher altitude was the culprit...

My WASC tends to turn out gummy



Yep... I'll bet the altitude was at least a major player in the problem.

According to some of the research I've done, reducing the amount of sugar is one of the adjustments that you need to make when baking in high altitude, and a gummy top can be caused by too much sugar and/or underbaking (I think I tend to underbake.. mine are still ending up tacky when I try to level and torte, so I'm still working it out myself, and I'm at close to 7000 feet).
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post #11 of 33
So sorry this happened. Stick with it and I bet things will improve. Sugar Ed Productions has a great DVD on TT cakes-give that a look as see if it helps.
Google baking in high altitudes and see what tips you find. I'm at 4900 feet, so I understand.
My first TT fell over and I never though I could do one again. But you know what, I stuck with it and have made some beautiful ones since. icon_smile.gif You can do it!
post #12 of 33
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Yes, I watched Janell's video and it was very helpful. I've been wanting to order Sugarshacks TT video for a while, maybe it's time that I finally do it... LOL.

I've tweeked the WASC recipe for higher altitude, but it doesn't seem to work the same with every flavor. Sometimes it turns out great and sometimes it's still gummy. (Why can't life just be easy???)
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The more I think about it, the more I think the cake recipe just wasn't strong enough to stand up to the carving and uneven weight distribution. I guess it's back to the drawing board (or should I say "recipe box") to find a dense high altitude cake recipe. icon_cry.gif If anyone has a great one... I'd love to try it! thumbs_up.gif
post #13 of 33
Try looking in the recipe section - there's a "durable cake for wedding and carving" or something like that.
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post #14 of 33
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Yea, that's the recipe I used..... didn't work too well for me. I'll keep searching.
post #15 of 33
You better not give up, I looked at your photos and you made some amazing cakes, Just order Sharon's DVD's they have a Wealth of info.
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