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Debate about Floral Wire in cakes?????

post #1 of 36
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Hi all!


I am soooooooooooooo confused. I have read countless times on this site that you should NEVER stick wire in cakes.

Answer me this then, on cake shows like Ultimate Cake off, Cake boss, Ace of Cakes, I have seen COUNTLESS times where the cakes have METAL PIPES used for satiability???? The pipe goes through the cake, TOUCHING the cake.

Why is it that I cannot stick a super thin wire in a cake, but these TV Shows are able to stick 1-2" METAL pipe in the middle of a cake????


Thanks.

Am I missing something?
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post #2 of 36
Good question,maybe it is safe metal?Don't know if there is such a thing?
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post #3 of 36
I'm not sure about Ace of Cakes, since I dont' watch that close. But I did notice in the Cake Boss I saw and the Ultimate Cake off you could see very quickly they covered the pipe with either a plastic wrap (Saran wrap?) or Rice Kripie Treats. Sometimes they put a pvc pipe over the metal pipe, not sure how food safe that is, but I have seen them cover those metal pipes.

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post #4 of 36
pvc is food safe. Most houses use pvc pipe for plumbing these days instead of copper.
post #5 of 36
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I am going to rewind my DVR. I remember being horrified when watching the last episode of U. Cake off. They had a camera shot from the bottom of the cake. There was some cake crumbs hanging out of the bottom of the cake from the drilled hole. Then I remeber looking at this large 1" black pipe, not wrapped in anything and going directly in the center......Again, I do not recall it being wrapped in anything, but I will go back and rewind my DVR and pause it to take a closer look....
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post #6 of 36
Stainless steel is a food safe metal (of course it just needs cleaned of any dirt that may have accumulated on it during transport etc..)

As for the cakes on U.cake Off I caught on the last two at the end that it says "cake served is not the cake from the competition" So i'm guessing this allows them a few shortcuts in not covereing everything up while competing (that is a lot to do in such a short amount of time)

As mentioned above I have seen that CakeBoss uses something to cover the pipes (fondant, seran wrap, rice krispies)

Not sure about Ace of cakes, haven't watched it in awhile and can't remember.

Also... just because someone jumps off a bridge will you? Not everyone uses the same standards and thinks about the metal not being food safe.
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post #7 of 36
I was also surprised to see both Cake Boss and Ace of Cakes stick decorative wires directly into their cakes. And I've seen it done many times.
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post #8 of 36
Hmmmm... my take on it all. I won't send anything out the door that I wouldn't want to eat myself. I don't want cake with wires sticking in it, so I would never do that.

Just because Duff (or whoever) does it, doesn't really mean I should. I mean, they deliver unboxed cakes and I wouldn't even dream of it.
post #9 of 36
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Originally Posted by KarmaStew

Just because Duff (or whoever) does it, doesn't really mean I should. I mean, they deliver unboxed cakes and I wouldn't even dream of it.


You mean you don't decorate in no apron with your hair hanging all over the cake? icon_biggrin.gif
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post #10 of 36
Hey Karma, I deliver unboxed ALL the time.
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post #11 of 36
I ordered gum paste flower, they came with the wires wrapped in aluminum foil. Can they be inserted in the cake if they are covered in foil?
post #12 of 36
And I stick wires in cakes ALL the time.
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post #13 of 36
I just dip my wires in melted almond bark and stick them in the cake like that. The candy coating toches the cake not the wire.
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post #14 of 36
call me crazy, but all my wires are wrapped in floral tape and i stick them right in like that. its paper tape that touches the cake, not the metal. (not to mention the fact that my floral wire is already wrapped in paper when i buy it, so i guess after i wrap it in floral tape, its wrapped twice)
post #15 of 36
It's the lead in the wires that are the no no.

Especially for children. The reason kids toys aren't painted in lead painticon_wink.gif there is no safe threshold for lead . Lead poisoning is nasty. I wouldn't want something toxic going into my cake. The idea of coffee stir sticks to insert first so the wire doesn't go into the cake directly is a good one.
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