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post #16 of 32
You have to type out every recipe and flow chart of the process, including cake mixes. My inspections don't even take that long, but I've been in business for a while, so they know me by now. They're very helpful if you have questions, though, it's not a scary process if you just do what they tell you needs to be done.

And once you get inspected you can advertise that you're licensed and inspected, which, in my opinion, is a good thing. I'd be reluctant to buy food from someone who has a label that it came from a non-inspected facility. And yes, I know that your kitchens are clean, but let's think about the thread recently where someone had pictures of her kitchen with the fondant sitting on the floor and the dog lying around in the kitchen. Yuck. And the health inspector told me many stories, like about having to do multiple inspections before the dog hair in the woman's candy was at an acceptable level!!!
post #17 of 32
Even if you use box mixes you still have to type it out. You also have to type out the ingredient list in the cake mix too for the labels. When I called about it the lady told me to do that even though I told her I bake from scratch. She said if for some reason I may ever do a box though, to type it out "to be safe". Also, SassyCleo had told me the same thing when it came to doing up labels of your ingriedients.
The people at the Dept. of Ag though told me as well that if I planned on "naming" my business, I do need to register with the Commonwealth. That was $100 and you get the forms on line, get a tax id number and you do not need to use an attorney as the lady at that agency told me. I've gotten a name so when I do get things together to open my business, I have the name I wanted.
post #18 of 32
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Originally Posted by Auryn

Oh wow,
congratulations you Virginians.
Wish Florida would smarten up but we are the state of stupidity.
Good Luck to all of you who get to sell from home now.

Don't forget to get that insurance to cover yourself



Well then. This derails my plans. No fall bazaar for me icon_cry.gif
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post #19 of 32
Thread Starter 
The lady at dept. of ag. told me I didn't have to type up the recipes, just copy them - FYI. I still think I'd type them out...
I couldn't get a hold of anyone at the county yesterday, it was a little late in the day, so I'm trying again today. BUT do I register with the county or the Commonwealth? I wasn't really planning on doing this all-out when I started, but I don't want to get in trouble - inspection/taxes.
Thank you to everyone who is so knowledgeable! Being able to post here and get answers from people who know takes so much frustration out of this process.
post #20 of 32
I do everything at the county government office, they have offices there for business licenses and sales tax, and it's all sent to the state.
post #21 of 32
Yes, a lot of the info in the packet doesn't pertain to a home-based baker. Yes, you have to give the Ag Department a copy of all your recipes, and your ingredients labels will include all the ingredients listed on the cake mix box.

According to the VA Kitchen Bill, you are not required to get licensed, but if you don't, you have to put a label on all products going out the door that it was processed in an uninspected facility. You will want to get insurance to protect yourself from nonpaying customers, bridezillas, and other crazies.

So, let's say someone wants to buy a wedding cake from a home-based baker. One baker has gotten inspected and has her licenses and insurance all in order. The other baker has a kitchen that's just as clean as the first one, but she doesn't have a license, and her cake box will have this lovely sticker saying " processed and prepared without state inspection". Oh, and the reception site requires a letter of insurance coverage from the baker.

Who would you choose?
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post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by this-mama-rocks

Yes, a lot of the info in the packet doesn't pertain to a home-based baker. Yes, you have to give the Ag Department a copy of all your recipes, and your ingredients labels will include all the ingredients listed on the cake mix box.

According to the VA Kitchen Bill, you are not required to get licensed, but if you don't, you have to put a label on all products going out the door that it was processed in an uninspected facility. You will want to get insurance to protect yourself from nonpaying customers, bridezillas, and other crazies.

So, let's say someone wants to buy a wedding cake from a home-based baker. One baker has gotten inspected and has her licenses and insurance all in order. The other baker has a kitchen that's just as clean as the first one, but she doesn't have a license, and her cake box will have this lovely sticker saying " processed and prepared without state inspection". Oh, and the reception site requires a letter of insurance coverage from the baker.

Who would you choose?



Not only that, but there are reception sites that require a copy of your business license and insurance to be kept on file with them before you can deliver there.
post #23 of 32
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Originally Posted by absijails

The lady at dept. of ag. told me I didn't have to type up the recipes, just copy them - FYI. I still think I'd type them out...
I couldn't get a hold of anyone at the county yesterday, it was a little late in the day, so I'm trying again today. BUT do I register with the county or the Commonwealth? I wasn't really planning on doing this all-out when I started, but I don't want to get in trouble - inspection/taxes.
Thank you to everyone who is so knowledgeable! Being able to post here and get answers from people who know takes so much frustration out of this process.



I guess it depends who you talk to because I asked about copying them too and they told me I had to type them out and then footnote where I got them from. Welcome to high school again I said and she laughed and said something about that coming in handy afterall.

OT but everytime I see that "I heard a Rumour", I think of that 80's Bannarama song of the same title.
post #24 of 32
Hmm, all of my recipes are my own, and I bake EVERYTHING from scratch...wonder what that means, footnoting where you got recipes?
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post #25 of 32
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Originally Posted by CIApastrychef

Hmm, all of my recipes are my own, and I bake EVERYTHING from scratch...wonder what that means, footnoting where you got recipes?



If you got them from somewhere you just have to cite the source. If they're you own you don't have to write anything, or just write that you invented the recipe on it. Don't forget to write "Trade Secret" on all of your recipes, that way it's a part of your file that can't be shared with the public! Especially if you came up with your own recipes!
post #26 of 32
Thread Starter 
I'm looking into insurance at the moment - what is the typical coverage most people have?

Boy has this really snowballed for me. What started as wanting to be able to legally make some cakes for neighbors has turned into tax id numbers and business insurance.
post #27 of 32
Look at it this way, better safe then sorry. Not to mention in the long run you'll feel better about taking care of everything!
post #28 of 32
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Originally Posted by absijails

I'm looking into insurance at the moment - what is the typical coverage most people have?

Boy has this really snowballed for me. What started as wanting to be able to legally make some cakes for neighbors has turned into tax id numbers and business insurance.



Wait until you have to start doing the bookkeeping for your business, ha ha! That's the part that I hate the most.

I got my business insurance through my homeowner's agent. I've seen lower rates than what I'm paying posted here on different threads. Maybe if you do a search for business insurance some other threads in the business forum will come up.
post #29 of 32
I feel like im in the same boat as alot of you. Im starting my small time cake business from home. I am a SAHM and navy wife and will be moving within a year. This all seems like such a headache to be able to sell a few cakes a week. Where did you all start? Did you try and register your name first or get your license or your kitchen inspection? Also does anyone have/use the CakeBoss software? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
post #30 of 32
Melony,
Could you email me that operations package information?!

whatrachelbakes@gmail.com

Thank you so much!
Also, any new news on what exactly I have to do to be able to sell baked goods that I make at home?
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