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post #16 of 82
Edna, how do you make your customers overspend on their budget? I have recently lost a perspective customer as the bride set her budget really low, I tried to accomadate and reduce my price but she wanted it ridiculusly low. In the end she found a bakers that would do her wedding cake really cheap. Her budget was £200. I quoted £240 with the delivery fee. The cake was worth much more, around £300 but I reduced the price. Her fiance later enquired about a wedding cake at a bakers near his office and they were selling a 3 tiered cake for just £100! I couldn't compete with that and there was no way I would have brought my price down that low, not worth the effort. I was really excited about getting my first customer, now I feel hopeless in getting customers.
post #17 of 82
I don't think it's a case of getting them to overspend, but more of showing them what your cake is worth and the bride making a decision of what's important to her. She might budget $500 for a dress, but when she sees THE dress .... with a pricetag of $850 .... many find a way to get THE dress.

My first question, when they give a really low number, is "How did you come up with that number?" If it was pulled from certain parts of their body, then that's when you have a problem because it means they've done NO research and have NO idea what things cost. Those are the biggest challenges.
post #18 of 82
Also, are you ready for the pain this cake will be, especially since you are new to the wedding cake process? This is NOT an easy cake to make- there is no grace with that fondant, and squares are more difficult sometimes to cover than round. There are no do-dads, scrolls, or ANYTHING except a swag and flowers. Almost EVERY flaw will show up- even lint! I would do as they say and if she wants this cake, then do most of it in fake cake! Also, charge her for that extra time it will take to get the thing close to perfect. Not to group everyone in the same boat, but sometimes the cheapest brides are the ones that complain the loudest! And if she does, it will not be her fault if you agree to charge her pennies for it!
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post #19 of 82
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Originally Posted by madgeowens

Wow its a beautiful cake........I WOULD LISTEN TO TONEDNA MYSELF icon_smile.gif


me, too.

And k8 is right. An 8" square is 8" from side to side, but it's close to 12" from corner to corner.
So I think this is 6/8/12, which serves 12/32/56 = 100. Is she willing to buy twice as much cake as she needs just to have this look?

With the fondant/flower work, it's easily in the $500 range.



Exactly. Anyone thinking about doing different shaped stacked cakes needs to take out a ruler right now and draw out your 6", 8" squares etc. etc., and you see exactly how much surface area you have to play with.
post #20 of 82
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Originally Posted by MissCakeCrazy

Edna, how do you make your customers overspend on their budget?



Usually if they dont have the budget I move them to something
that goes more to what they can pay for. Is not fair your work has to suffer cause they dont have the budget.
Teach your clients to go for what they cant buy or you will end up loosing money.
Edna


I think she meant to type: Teach your clients to go for what the can buy or you will end up loosing money.
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post #21 of 82
It really depends on what is important to the bride. I spent more on my cake than on my dress, because I wanted a cake that was better than something I could do myself (wasn't going to put myself through the stress of making my own cake). I had a look I wanted (gumpaste replica of my bouquet as the topper with a fondant ribbon draped down the tiers that matched bridesmaids' dresses) and wanted the cake to taste awesome, too and was willing to pay for these things. The dress? didn't care about it being a designer dress at all. Just wanted something that made me feel pretty. Dress-$400 Cake-$550 (note: this was in 2003).

Some brides don't care as much about the cake, what's imporant to them is having a designer dress, or a live band, or a sit-down seven course dinner, or what ever it is that makes their wedding special to them. If the bride doesn't care about the cake, you might not get that order, because a big box store cookie-cutter cake is fine with them.


Then you have the brides that are just clueless about what things cost. Those can be harder to deal with because they have a *look* in mind but want to pay peanuts for diamonds. icon_rolleyes.gif Chances are, if they find someone to do the cake they have in mind for the price they want to pay, you'll end up seeing the cake on Cake Wrecks. icon_evil.gif
post #22 of 82
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Originally Posted by __Jamie__

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Originally Posted by indydebi

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Originally Posted by madgeowens

Wow its a beautiful cake........I WOULD LISTEN TO TONEDNA MYSELF icon_smile.gif


me, too.

And k8 is right. An 8" square is 8" from side to side, but it's close to 12" from corner to corner.
So I think this is 6/8/12, which serves 12/32/56 = 100. Is she willing to buy twice as much cake as she needs just to have this look?

With the fondant/flower work, it's easily in the $500 range.



Exactly. Anyone thinking about doing different shaped stacked cakes needs to take out a ruler right now and draw out your 6", 8" squares etc. etc., and you see exactly how much surface area you have to play with.


I'm such a "have to see it" kinda person, I have to pull my pans out to see what will work!
post #23 of 82
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Originally Posted by __Jamie__

Exactly. Anyone thinking about doing different shaped stacked cakes needs to take out a ruler right now and draw out your 6", 8" squares etc. etc., and you see exactly how much surface area you have to play with.

This is a great example of how having some square dummies around comes in handy. I can stack them up and show the bride how a configuration may or may not work. I can show them that a "square-diamond-square" set up (with 3 square cakes) can't work, but if we just turn them slightly (like a winding stairway), it will work fine! Priceless visual!
post #24 of 82
Here is a 6" round on an 8" square, and a 6" square on an 8" round. You can see how one config works fine, and the other one does not.

Ignore the water spots.
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post #25 of 82
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Originally Posted by indydebi

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Originally Posted by __Jamie__

Exactly. Anyone thinking about doing different shaped stacked cakes needs to take out a ruler right now and draw out your 6", 8" squares etc. etc., and you see exactly how much surface area you have to play with.

This is a great example of how having some square dummies around comes in handy. I can stack them up and show the bride how a configuration may or may not work. I can show them that a "square-diamond-square" set up (with 3 square cakes) can't work, but if we just turn them slightly (like a winding stairway), it will work fine! Priceless visual!



Indydebi,
That's a great idea using the dummies in that way and for a visual on height . It did not occur to me to use them for anything put decorating.

When I made my daughter's wedding cake I stacked the pans on top of each other. Since I only had 1 of each size I had to use the pans I wasn't going to use to add the height. It didn't help that much, I ended up getting the yard stick out. Also the bottom tier was 20" but the pan was a 1/2 round so that didn't help much either.
post #26 of 82
Can anyone tell me what the sizes of those layers are in the photo?
post #27 of 82
lol as you can see, I didnt read the latest posts.........so you think 12,8 and 6?
post #28 of 82
lol OMG..............is that really going to be hard? this is what I have hanging on my fridge to make for my own birthday this week.........except I will change from white to pink rose on cake, and maybe use white drapes...never did drapes and I am doing gumpaste roses for first time........everyone told me to challenge myself.yikes sounds like I may have a disaster birthday cake...............so I am confused..what size square on top of the 12 inch round?
post #29 of 82
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Originally Posted by __Jamie__

Here is a 6" round on an 8" square, and a 6" square on an 8" round. You can see how one config works fine, and the other one does not.

Ignore the water spots.



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I'm looking at your water spots icon_eek.gif LOL

Seriously though. I charge $3 per serving for buttercream cakes and about $5 for fondant work. Even though the cake looks small and simple you cannot help the design they pick.. You have to charge accordingly. If they don't have it in their budget offer a buttercream version for a little less. A lot of people don't realize the cost and work there is in fondant.
Another way to save it to use artificial flowers opposed to gumpaste. Or they can supply fresh flowers.
post #30 of 82
Since we're in the subject of pricing, I have this very important question,
What about non-wedding tiered cakes? If that was a birthday cake? In May I made a 3 tiered cake for my daughter because I wanted to practice and covered it in fondant. It was a star shape pan and 8" & 6" rounds. Someone asked me how much something like that would cost, I pointed out that it was fondant, and the decorations on it too, I said for sure over a hundred. I'm sure they thought it was a lot.
I've noticed that on the Wilton cake dec books, they give you the break down for how many party servings, and how many wedding servings. ei. an 8" round gives you 20 party serv. or 24 wedding serv. I know I spent my time on my daughters, so even if it's non-wedding cake a lot of cakes can take alot of work- right ladies? just look at all the cakes here at CC.
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