I am a huge Harry Potter fan, like so many others. And I realize the word Muggle is totally made up. However, it is used as a derogatory name depicting people who aren't wizards.
It really bothers me when decorators on here use the term muggle to refer to someone who doesn't decorate cakes. It seems like all of a sudden, a made up word is being bandied around bashing those whose artistic abilities lie elsewhere.
Does this bother anyone else, I wonder, or am I being overly sensitive?
Do more decorators than not really feel that superior to those who choose to buy their cakes?
And by the way, the derogatory term you are grasping for is....mudbloods, not Muggles, that term is perfectly acceptable amongst magical folk. (I can't belive ei am having this conversation.)
Ok, I take back some of the snarkyness, you did ask if you were being overly sensitive...so yes, I think you are.
That's ok, you can gasp and laugh, doesn't bother me.
Doesn't affect my life at all. Just thinking out loud.
Sorry! I was thinking out loud, too! Truthfully, I was trying to figure out if you were serious or not. I thought maybe it was a play on how overly sensitive we have ALL been lately.
Seriously! We've all been so crabby! Not that we all have to agree all the time. I'm not naive enough to believe that will ever happen. It just seems we've been unusually touchy lately, that's all.
not to burst a bubble or spell or charm
but even the grande dame of dictionaries --
the authority beyond all authority
the dictionary that will define a word to death.
The OED -- The Oxford English Dictionary
even it has deemed the word worthy of inclusion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_2882000/2882895.stm
http://www.oed.com/help/updates/motswana-mussy.html
and yes, they too are saying it means those lacking in talent.
Yes, you're being too sensitive.
is she really serious? cuz I'm thinking this has to be a joke........
This is cracking me up!! Yes, I agree, way too sensitive. Jamie, you always make me laugh.
Those who do not do cakes ARE in fact "cake muggles" Not derogatory, just a fact.
I am just ROTFLMAO while I type this. Not making fun, just being entertained. This post made my night.
Don't worry vtcake. I'll take the focus off of you for a sec by admitting I've never read or seen any Harry Potter and didn't know until this thread that the word "muggle" originated there. *blush*
Not taken from Google or any other source, just my years of Harry Potter fanaticism (is that a word?)
Muggle: Non magic folk; persons without magical abilities; can't fly, operate a broomstick, use the "Accio" spell, etc., etc.
Mugblood: A derogatory term penned by some snooty pureblood wizarding families to insult a witch or wizard who have muggles somewhere in their family tree. Example: Hermione Granger, Harry and Ron's best pal; her parents are both muggles. Dentists, to be exact.
My momma is a cake muggle, and I'd never insult my momma! Just kidding...I don't really talk like that.
Not taken from Google or any other source, just my years of Harry Potter fanaticism (is that a word?)
Muggle: Non magic folk; persons without magical abilities; can't fly, operate a broomstick, use the "Accio" spell, etc., etc.
Mugblood: A derogatory term penned by some snooty pureblood wizarding families to insult a witch or wizard who have muggles somewhere in their family tree. Example: Hermione Granger, Harry and Ron's best pal; her parents are both muggles. Dentists, to be exact.
not to mention Tom Riddle (aka HWSNBN) himself too! talk about bad bad bad self-esteem issues!
ps -- yes fanaticism is a real word -- just as Muggle is now too (thank you OED for saying so)
My momma is a cake muggle, and I'd never insult my momma! Just kidding...I don't really talk like that.
Don't lie Jamie, you know you really talk like that........
Yes, I think you're being overly sensitive.
The context I get when I see it used here is someone who doesn't understand all of the work & effort that goes into making a cake--the person who thinks that it's "just flour & eggs", the person who thinks that you can magically make a 3 tier, custom cake appear in 3 hrs., the person who thinks that because the ingredients only cost $20 that you should donate your labor and only charge $15 , the person who wants to pay $10 for a 3-D sculpture of a Sorting Hat, etc.
Used here on CC, I've never seen it used to deride someone's talent, or lack thereof.
Rae
Do more decorators than not really feel that superior to those who choose to buy their cakes?
I'm sure most professional decorators do feel superior in their decorating skills compared with those who have never done it, just like professional athletes feel their skills are superior to the average person etc.
Not a superior person, superior skills. I would hope that someone's skills would be superior to mine if I paid them to make a cake or fix my car or paint my house.
I'm laughing my a$$ off at this post, and truly hoping you were only half-serious. I'm one of the biggest HP geeks around (including preparing to have the dark mark tattooed on my arm soon lol) and "Muggle" is NOT a derogatory term in the book... it's simply a word that means "non-magic folk" (to quote Hagrid). It's no different than a Jewish person using the word "Gentile" to describe someone who is not of their faith.
The derogatory word in the book used by some "pure blood" wizards to describe muggle-born wizards, or "half-blooded" (one muggle and one magical parent) is "Mudblood" (meaning dirty blood) and in their world it's considered a VERY bad insult that is not used in "polite company." From the reaction it gets from characters in the series, I would think it is likened to the "n" word.
So, for us, cake muggles, are just people who don't do cakes, and we use it because some people have no CLUE what is involved in creating these amazing designs. I watch food network and think we can pull these designs out of thin air in a few hours. Frankly, it's the perfect way to describe them, since the Muggles in HP are completely unaware of the magical world around them, and the "cake muggles" are completely unaware of what is involved in making a custom cake. I don't think any of us feel superior to our customers (okay maybe some of them lol--jk), we just possess a set of skills they do not. Just like I don't think my doctor, hairdresser, or dentist feel superior to me--they possess skills and training I do not and if they wanted to call me a "medical muggle" or "hair muggle," etc., well I'd find it funny.
Well said PinkZiab. This place is really getting to be something. I too am laughing my self silly! What is the next word that is going to be misconstrued?
Well said PinkZiab. This place is really getting to be something. I too am laughing my self silly! What is the next word that is going to be misconstrued?
Well said PinkZiab. This place is really getting to be something. I too am laughing my self silly! What is the next word that is going to be misconstrued?
http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/challenge/index.htm
Here ya go fellow HP geeks! Knock yourselves out! I know a lot, and this thing kicked my butt!
Just a little sensitive, maybe. I would consider myself a photography muggle, flower arranging muggle, automotive repair muggle...it's just people who "don't get IT", plain and simple. I think I read THE thread where the word originated on CC and don't believe any harm has been intended.
Ok, I give up...a few days have passed,and I'm feeling better. (I had just had surgery,.)
I'll admit to being overly sensitive and HP thesaurus-challenged.
I had no idea what the origin of that word was and only half-guessed at what it meant because of the context in which it was used... I guess I'll have to go buy a HP book now...
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