Never Using Bc Again Under Fondant
Decorating By MikeRowesHunny Updated 28 Aug 2016 , 4:27pm by yortma
dogluvr spakle is just BC with cake crumbs mixed in. I made van BC and had devils food choc cake crumbs so it was like cookies and cream flavored and wowwie it was good. It doesn't crust(just incase that is the next question.)
I have been doing this with my fondant-covered cakes since I started decorating and it never fails. I don't always fill the cakes with the ganache either. I torte and fill with whatever filling suits the cake flavour then ice with a complementing ganache before covering with fondant.
I also purchased the Planet Cake book the day it was released here in Oz and felt even better about the method when I read that they were doing the same thing.
What ratio do you all use for semi-sweet and for bittersweet ganache? Also, has anyone tried this on a carved cake? I'm wondering how well this would smooth around intentional bumps and dips.
I used it on a carved cake - it works really well especially if you whip it. I'm not sure about the apricot preserve thing - I know you can use it - but I think it's also to help make the cake moist. You don't need to use it though. The ganache will go on fine without it. You do need to spray it lightly (or brush) with water before you put the fondant on so that the fondant has something to bond with.
Isn't using apricot preserves an expensive way to do something that water also accomplishes?
Melnick, the water-thinned apricot preserves is suggested to be brushed over the ganache to help the fondant stick. It would replace the water spray.
I used simple syrup before but have tried preseves too since buying the Planet Cake book.
Isn't using apricot preserves an expensive way to do something that water also accomplishes?
Maybe, but as a British expat, I'm used to brushing my fruit cakes with it before marzipanning them, so it's no biggy for me! The cakes are now all fondanted, and they look lovely. I just hope it all goes together tomorrow without a hitch!
bonjovibabe,
you are probably very busy lady now (decorating and answering Q), but you put a big bug in my head. I will try to limit my Q, and this should be hopefully last one
I don't want to use fondant over - so I was thinking why not pour the ganache over the cake instead of spreading with a spatula, I should have a smoother finish, is this Ganache pourable? Then I was going to put it in the fridge, and dowel and stack 3 tier. Now, my cake will be done in August - might be hot, will the white ganache kind of melt in the room, and the cake plates stick to the cake when stacked (it might look ugly when they put the cake apart). Just what do you think about all this? Maybe that's why they (and you) are putting the fondant over, to prevent this?????
I know this may sound dumb, but how badly would dark chocolate ganache show through if you put white fondant on top? Has any one ever tried it?
jensenscakes,
I have. Take a look at the white cake with pink cut-out flowers and "Anne" on top in my pictures and judge for yourself. Also the White cake with pale green booties on top.
Hello - Need help desperately! I am supposed to be making a cake for a 90th birthday this weekend and would really like to try using ganache. Currently we are facing high 90s. Is it still safe to use ganache? The one local bakery that I have found that has used ganache says they wouldn't risk it. What do you think? Obviously, my house is not 90 + degrees, but it will have to sit outside during the party...
Also, anyone have a terrific filling that needs no refrigeration? Chocolate and white cakes are the flavors.
You got me craving.. I am making 8" white ganache right now. I made the ganache this morning, and plan to spread over my cake at evening. It looks yellowish... I am not sure if I understood correctly, should I whip the ganache before spread over cake, or use just like it is (melted and rested)???? Also I am need to refrigerate the cake, as I am using Bavarian creme filling. Somebody mentioned not to refrigerate before covering with fondant. The cake needs to be refrigerated all the time? Can you help???
I know this may sound dumb, but how badly would dark chocolate ganache show through if you put white fondant on top? Has any one ever tried it?
ALL the time! and NO it never shows - using ganache under fondant is fairly standard here in Australia - most decoraters do it
Do you realise that Planet Cake roll their fondant as thin as 1/8inch ?
Don't confuuse this SETTING ganache with the "pouring" style of ganache - it will NOT work - the ratios explained earlier need to be adhered to in order for it to set. ie. 2 parts dark choc to 1 part cream OR 3parts white chocolate to 1 part cream
Our cream is pouring cream and is 35% fat - try to get a cream with NO gelatine added.
Ganache is put onto cakes in a similar fashion to Sugarshack's buttercream - once it is melted and combined it must be allowed to set to a spreadable consistency!! Use the straight sided benchscraper to get nice straight sides. Ours set up overnight - air-con room 21'C
The ganache once set should be dry to the touch and you should not be able to leave a fingerprint on it - should be FIRM.
So glad to see ganache taking off over there - it really makes for a much nicer cake!! but do remember to adjust your pricing matrix - oh AND don't skimp on the quality of the chocolate !!! Use good quality couverture like Callebaut - the cheaper compound chocolates contain high water content and can produce less than desirable results AS WELL as inferior taste!!
THeir is also a video on you tube that shows one of the decorators covering a cake that has been ganached. I don't know if I have done this properly but this is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We26gwKS_tw&feature=PlayList&p=9CADD8EC3B32306A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=30. Sorry if this is wrong but if it is just go to youtube and type in planet cake.
wow, see the way she traets the fondant in the video? I'm too scared of the fondant to do that. with my luck, it would fall apart!
Could you please tell me the ratio of milk chocolate to cream? TIA
The dark chocolate is the most stable out of all - so I would expect that the milk choc would be the same as the dark in GOOD weather/conditions ... BUT in the Australian summer I would definately be leaning more towards the ratios for the white chocolate - I am not a fan of the milk chocolate in ganache - even if you don't like dark chocolate I think you will be happy with it in ganache - remember it is diluted somewhat with the cream - and it is a perfect compliment to the mudcake.
ApplegumKitchen, i LOVE your username, btw. I was wondering what flavor combination you would use dark chocolate ganache and white chocolate ganache with. do you fill with the ganache too? if not, do you use buttercream? thanks!
I am so dumb! Can someone direct me to a recipe for this SETTING ganache? I don't get what 2 parts dark choc to 1 part cream OR 3parts white chocolate to 1 part cream means!
I am so dumb! Can someone direct me to a recipe for this SETTING ganache? I don't get what 2 parts dark choc to 1 part cream OR 3parts white chocolate to 1 part cream means!
that's just a ratio
so with the 2:1, you use 2 cups of dark chocolate to 1 cup of cream for the 3:1, use 3 cups white chocolate to 1 cup of cream. you can use cups, grams, pounds, etc as long as the ratio is 2:1 or 3:1.
HTH
I have whipping cream at home. Can this be used for the cream or does it have to be heavy cream or half and half. Thank you all for your help
I am so dumb! Can someone direct me to a recipe for this SETTING ganache? I don't get what 2 parts dark choc to 1 part cream OR 3parts white chocolate to 1 part cream means!
that's just a ratio
so with the 2:1, you use 2 cups of dark chocolate to 1 cup of cream for the 3:1, use 3 cups white chocolate to 1 cup of cream. you can use cups, grams, pounds, etc as long as the ratio is 2:1 or 3:1.
HTH
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you there. With ganache weight IS important, you can't rely on the airy-fairy cup measuring thing as you never get the same weights twice. So for example for dark ganache, if you use 1 cup (250ml) of cream you must use 500 grams (17.6oz) of dark chocolate. 2 cups of chocolate chips is only approximately 360grams (12.7oz) - 5oz less than you need and that will really effect your results!
Planet Cake's recipes for a setting ganache to cover your cakes is:
Dark ganache:
1.2kg (42oz) dark chocolate
600ml (21 fl oz) 35% fat cream
White ganache:
1.3kg (48oz) white chocolate
450ml (16 fl oz) 35% fat cream
Obviously you can adjust these amounts in the dark 2:1 ratio and the white 3:1 ratio to get the amount you need, but it must be done by weight!
HTH!
Dinny2222
I have just spent much time looking into the differences between heavy cream that seems so abundant in many places (non-existent in stores here) and heavy whipping cream. Although the heavy whipping cream has an extra ingredient or two - meant to boost the whip-ability and stability of the whipped product - they are essentially the same fat content. Heavy whipping cream must be 36% butterfat.
I can only support what AppleGum Kitchen wrote, as a fellow Aussie. We are seeing this almost as a standard here now (other than pure fondant covered cakes).
With your cream in this ganache, you want to start with pouring cream with no additives, full fat. That is 35% fat content.
I am so dumb! Can someone direct me to a recipe for this SETTING ganache? I don't get what 2 parts dark choc to 1 part cream OR 3parts white chocolate to 1 part cream means!
that's just a ratio
so with the 2:1, you use 2 cups of dark chocolate to 1 cup of cream for the 3:1, use 3 cups white chocolate to 1 cup of cream. you can use cups, grams, pounds, etc as long as the ratio is 2:1 or 3:1.
HTH
Sorry, but I have to disagree with you there. With ganache weight IS important, you can't rely on the airy-fairy cup measuring thing as you never get the same weights twice. So for example for dark ganache, if you use 1 cup (250ml) of cream you must use 500 grams (17.6oz) of dark chocolate. 2 cups of chocolate chips is only approximately 360grams (12.7oz) - 5oz less than you need and that will really effect your results!
Planet Cake's recipes for a setting ganache to cover your cakes is:
Dark ganache:
1.2kg (42oz) dark chocolate
600ml (21 fl oz) 35% fat cream
White ganache:
1.3kg (48oz) white chocolate
450ml (16 fl oz) 35% fat cream
Obviously you can adjust these amounts in the dark 2:1 ratio and the white 3:1 ratio to get the amount you need, but it must be done by weight!
HTH!
ACK! you caught me i was too lazy to look up the planet cake recipe. i actually do mine by weight too. i forgot the exact amount of cream but it's 500 g dark chocolate and 1 pack of cream (our cream here is only available in one size, imagine that )
so sorry about that...
OK--to clarify: you measure the cream in a measuring cup (21 fluid oz.), and you weigh the chocolate (42 oz.) Is that right?
UPDATE!!!!
OK, just got back from the wedding. The cake went down a storm and the ganache/fondant combo is really good! Here's a picture, sorry for the quality, my camera died after one shot! Luckily my B&G had one of the best photographers in Holland taking their photos and have promised to send me all cake related pics!
http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-photo_1380027.html
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