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post #16 of 232
4/27/09 at 11:32am
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GIRL!!! you are AMAZING!! thank you so much!!
CHNG FL LAW
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_0ckx9cdw Trying to Do
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_1c6574vcm Consolidated
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_2hdkhpkgv NJ
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_3xz6v4nfm Non baking
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CHNG FL LAW
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_0ckx9cdw Trying to Do
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_1c6574vcm Consolidated
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_2hdkhpkgv NJ
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_3xz6v4nfm Non baking
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post #17 of 232
4/27/09 at 11:36am
Hey I think every state should have this legal. Why should it be just a couple handfuls of states? If they have it legal and haven't had problems then we all should have it legal? I wish I knew if there was a way to fight for all the states at once.

I know how hard of a battle this is. Ours (Texas) is still going on. It's an aggravating battle. But it's so worth it. I'm more than happy to help any way I can.
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post #18 of 232
4/27/09 at 11:40am
Wow! All this info is awesome!!! please everyone - lets follow these leads and do whatever we can in our own district too!!

Thanks ya'll for all this great info!!!
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post #19 of 232
4/27/09 at 11:41am
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I watched that video on the Texas site - what a witch that lady is!! I woulda smacked her! "want a cupcake" - like this is no big deal and it just pi$$ed me off!!!

I totally agree that it should be legal everywhere! as has been well documented (especially on a recent thread that got locked) commercial kitchens are NO more clean or sanitary than your home kitchen!! Frankly, after reading that thread I never want to eat fritos (or any corn products), or pork rinds, or at dominos or red lobster, or chick-fil-a or wendy's ..... ever again!! basically, I'm cooking at home! I know my kitchen is clean and my food is fresh!
CHNG FL LAW
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_0ckx9cdw Trying to Do
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_1c6574vcm Consolidated
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_2hdkhpkgv NJ
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_3xz6v4nfm Non baking
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CHNG FL LAW
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_0ckx9cdw Trying to Do
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_1c6574vcm Consolidated
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_2hdkhpkgv NJ
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_3xz6v4nfm Non baking
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post #20 of 232
4/27/09 at 11:59am
I called Jimmy Patronis's office. The aid there told me they are in session now and the session ends in one week. The deadline for new bills is in February so that give us lots of time to get organized. I am going to email him to ask what needs to be done to get the ball rolling.

His aid thought it was a great idea to help folks out in these stressful economic times. She also suggested that we contact the various regulating agencies to find out what is required to run a legal shop right now. Does anyone want to run that down? We could then show how hard it is to turn a profit running out of a commercial kitchen.

So lets all contact our own legislators and report back to this thread. They will be really busy for the next week though.
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post #21 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:08pm
This is great.
I am in palm beach county, I will try getting info down here.
I think we definitely need to include the 'economic development' portion of our argument.
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post #22 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:09pm
Here is the link to the page that has the video feed for our (Texas's) public hearing:

http://www.house.state.tx.us/committees/broadcasts.php?session=81&committeeCode=410

Go to the date 3/24/09
Then click on the 8:09am-8:20am link and they start discussing the bill at 29:50.
Then the feed continues...
Click on the 12:50pm-10:21pm, this starts right back into discussing our bill again.

I really do recommend watching this. First of all it is very entertaining because some on these people were rediculous and second it is really going to give you guys an edge.
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post #23 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:15pm
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The biggest cost is getting the commercial kitchen licensed - you have to have an approved commercial kitchen with a hood and grease trap $$ a actual commercial equipment. You cannot put a regular stove in - it has to be something that you would see in a restaurant. The plans for the kitchen have to be approved and then you have to have an inspection and pay all the fees associated with that.

Then you have to get your business license to run the business, which is in itself not too difficult but is a little expensive.

You have to take the SafeStaff class - no big deal and you would still have to if this law gets passed - that is minimal cost with that and makes very good sense.

I can't remember what all you have to do, but basically it took me about 2 hours on the phone calling different agencies to find out what governing body (health department/office of professional services/environmental health) that I would have to be licensed through! It was CRAZY!!!

It basically takes MONTHS and tons of misinformation to get a commercial kitchen set up and there are no government funds or grants to help you out.

Amazing work everyone!! Keep it up!!! I'm sure that we could be ready by February!!
CHNG FL LAW
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_0ckx9cdw Trying to Do
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_1c6574vcm Consolidated
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_2hdkhpkgv NJ
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_3xz6v4nfm Non baking
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CHNG FL LAW
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_0ckx9cdw Trying to Do
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_1c6574vcm Consolidated
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_2hdkhpkgv NJ
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgmntv26_3xz6v4nfm Non baking
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post #24 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:18pm
Hi all....
I wish you the best of luck on this. When I lived there, (Orlando) I wanted to do home-baking, and was told it was not allowed because Florida is considered a transient State (too many people moving in and out all the time by the droves) My girlfriend has lived there for 30 years, and she said she was told the same thing. When I took classes at the Notter School of Pastry Arts three years ago, I asked around with the students in the class that live there, and it was still the same.
I'm not trying to put a wet blanket on this for you. I really hope you can get this off the ground.
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post #25 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:33pm
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Originally Posted by meharding

I called Jimmy Patronis's office. The aid there told me they are in session now and the session ends in one week. The deadline for new bills is in February so that give us lots of time to get organized. I am going to email him to ask what needs to be done to get the ball rolling.

His aid thought it was a great idea to help folks out in these stressful economic times. She also suggested that we contact the various regulating agencies to find out what is required to run a legal shop right now. Does anyone want to run that down? We could then show how hard it is to turn a profit running out of a commercial kitchen.

So lets all contact our own legislators and report back to this thread. They will be really busy for the next week though.



Thanks for making that call! Hopefully you will have more info for us when/if you recieve an email back ..
I tried to call my rep but just got a voice mail but left my # so hopefully will get a call back today ..
I will try later today to find that info on what is required for a bakery now .. I've read it b4 but we'll need that info anyways for janels letter ..

Good work our Fl cake friend!!
I'm NOT 40 something ... I'm $39.99 plus shipping and handling!!

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Words from the lovely caterer Goldy: "When in doubt; Bundt"
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I'm NOT 40 something ... I'm $39.99 plus shipping and handling!!

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Words from the lovely caterer Goldy: "When in doubt; Bundt"
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post #26 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by jewelykaye

Here is the link to the page that has the video feed for our (Texas's) public hearing:

http://www.house.state.tx.us/committees/broadcasts.php?session=81&committeeCode=410

Go to the date 3/24/09
Then click on the 8:09am-8:20am link and they start discussing the bill at 29:50.
Then the feed continues...
Click on the 12:50pm-10:21pm, this starts right back into discussing our bill again.

I really do recommend watching this. First of all it is very entertaining because some on these people were rediculous and second it is really going to give you guys an edge.



a wwww - you are like a true diamond shinning in our darkness!!! Thanks soooo much for all this great info!!
Im off to be entertained and informed by your video's!! thumbs_up.gif
I'm NOT 40 something ... I'm $39.99 plus shipping and handling!!

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Words from the lovely caterer Goldy: "When in doubt; Bundt"
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I'm NOT 40 something ... I'm $39.99 plus shipping and handling!!

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Words from the lovely caterer Goldy: "When in doubt; Bundt"
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post #27 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by jewelykaye

Also, Fl is a ballot initiative state. So if for some reason you aren't able to get the bill passed you could always try the ballot initiative route.

Basically, you have to do a petition and get so many people to sign it and then it gets added to the ballot and I think 60% of the voters have to vote for it and then it becomes law.

I'm not that knowledgeable on this because Texas is not a state that does this.

Here is a website I found that might help:

http://www.ballot.org/pages/florida



I've worked on ballot initiatives before - that's a ridiculous undertaking!! Takes like 5 million signatures on a petition to even get it considered.
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post #28 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:43pm
What?!?!?!?!?!? OMG That many????
Hmmmm
Well, back to whinning to my Legislator!!
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Words from the lovely caterer Goldy: "When in doubt; Bundt"
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I'm NOT 40 something ... I'm $39.99 plus shipping and handling!!

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post #29 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:46pm
I am going to be watching this for anything I can do! Do you have a link or phone number?(Just saw the links on page 1)THANKS! I can write letter after letter if need be.
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post #30 of 232
4/27/09 at 12:51pm
i'm in
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