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post #16 of 125
Wow, Ive been thinking about a way to become legal all week. My DH younger brother was killed last week. This was a 27 yr old guy who was writing and recording music and had money saved in the bank to buy his 1st home. He was working on making his drams come true. This tragedy has made me realize that I have to live for today and if I want something, I have to go out and get it. Ive only been decorating cakes for about a year and a half and I love it, sure, I have a lot to learn still, but this is something that I want to do. Its my DREAM. So guys, COUNT ME IN TOO!!!!

Thank you soo much for sending me the link to the post, and lets do this.
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Denise
post #17 of 125
Thread Starter 
Oh, Denise........I'm so, so sorry to hear about your brother-in-law. That is so tragic! Please accept my sincerest condolences to you, your husband, and the family.

I understand how something like this makes you think about life and 'the big picture', but make sure you're ready to this first. We can always use support to help get this law passed and hopefully reap its benefits, but nobody would blame you if you couldn't do it at this moment. It's entirely up to you and I thank you for responding to my PM/e-mail.

If you feel up to it and would like to write some letters to your legislative reps, we appreciate it. If not, and you'd still like to help, maybe you can ask a friend or neighbor to it on your behalf.

Take care and God bless!
-Grace

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post #18 of 125
Hi Sugar Plum Fairy

Thank you so much for your kind words. I am willing to do a couple of letters and spread the word around to help at least in getting the law passed. Who knows maybe by the time the law is passed I will be ready to make that step to set up shop!!!!!!! icon_lol.gif

Denise
post #19 of 125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nissi01

Hi Sugar Plum Fairy

Thank you so much for your kind words. I am willing to do a couple of letters and spread the word around to help at least in getting the law passed. Who knows maybe by the time the law is passed I will be ready to make that step to set up shop!!!!!!! icon_lol.gif

Denise



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-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
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-Grace

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The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
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post #20 of 125
i'M IN.....
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post #21 of 125
Thread Starter 
Hi, everybody. Hope you're doing well today and that those letters are getting to our Reps. Has anyone heard back from anybody yet? It's probably too soon, but just though I'd ask.

Well we want to keep letters going to the offices of these officials and keep our cause in the forfront of their minds, so the more letters we send, the better. Hopefully, you're all asking others to write also, so with that in mind...........

Okay, for all the non-bakers who support our cause, here's a sample letter for them to follow:

To the Honorable ___________________________:

I have decided to write to you today to let you know I whole-heartedly want to support my _______________(insert relationship and/or name here) in her/his endeavor to open a small home-based bakery. I believe ____________ has what it takes to do well, except for the support from the state of New Jersey.

It wasnt until __________________ informed me that New Jersey made it illegal for a home-baker to sell his/her baked goods to the public that I knew about this law. I would love to see a new law instated to change this and allow home bakers the opportunity to sell their creations. Of course Im concerned about public safety issues and food-borne illnesses and such, but even restaurants that are inspected and licensed sometimes have their share of problems. You hear on the news and read in the papers stories about restaurants being closed for not keeping up with codes and sanitary standards, but I believe someone who is baking from their own home would not wind up in this type of a situation. Knowing that someone is judging you, your desserts and your kitchen, which reflects the heart of your home, will definitely keep one on their toes!

I can also see other advantages to this: more jobs in this current recessed economic climate, incubator kitchen situations for the home baker (if (s)he can start the business out of the home kitchen and expand it enough (while making a profit from it) then (s)he might actually open up a commercial bakery), stimulation of the states economy would also come from the baker purchasing supplies, equipment, insurance, taking food handling classes, and other business-related necessities. I remember mentioning the rental of a commercial kitchen to my ________________(insert relation cousin, friend, sibling, etc.) only to be told that to find one is a job in itself. When looking on Craigs List and some other sites, there are numerous requests from those looking for kitchens and rarely any ads to rent a kitchen. This situation is extremely frustrating and problematic for those bakers that want to be above-board and legal.

Finally, if you were to consider writing a bill for this, it would be a shame to have gone through all of this and still have some bakers not reap any reward due to zoning issues. Maybe that could be addressed as well a built-in variance or waiver since this type of a business would not create much traffic only occasional meetings before hand (tastings, deposits are sometimes done beforehand and usually only in the case of wedding cakes), and of course, delivery or pick-up of the baked goods.

Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to read and consider this issue.

Sincerely,

_______________
-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
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-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
Reply
post #22 of 125
I contacted my local reps too -- thanks for the heads-up!
post #23 of 125
Gosh, that's a darn good letter, too bad we can't do something like that in California. I wish you guys the best Jersey girls. I was born there in Camden but raised in Cali, my heart still belongs to Jersey. Best of luck!
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post #24 of 125
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by panchanewjersey

Gosh, that's a darn good letter, too bad we can't do something like that in California. I wish you guys the best Jersey girls. I was born there in Camden but raised in Cali, my heart still belongs to Jersey. Best of luck!



Thanks so much for your kind wishes. Just one question: why aren't you able to do something like this in California? I know their laws are pretty stringent; is that why?
-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
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-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
Reply
post #25 of 125
I am in too as soon as I can figure out how to cut and paste that great letter.
post #26 of 125
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pattycakesncookies

I am in too as soon as I can figure out how to cut and paste that great letter.



Here, you might be able to cut and paste from here: http://www.meetup.com/njcakedecoratorsclub/messages/boards/thread/6577157

The only thing I forgot in that one is for the closing, under your signature, please add your address, telephone number, e-mail address and website, if applicable.

Thanks so much for joining in and helping out. Also, for non-bakers who'd like to support our cause, I've come up with another letter.


Date

To the Honorable ___________________________:

I have decided to write to you today to let you know I whole-heartedly want to support my _______________(insert relationship and/or name here) in her/his endeavor to open a small home-based bakery. I believe ____________ has what it takes to do well, except for the support from the state of New Jersey.

It wasnt until __________________ informed me that New Jersey made it illegal for a home-baker to sell his/her baked goods to the public that I knew about this law. I would love to see a new law instated to change this and allow home bakers the opportunity to sell their creations. Of course Im concerned about public safety issues and food-borne illnesses and such, but even restaurants that are inspected and licensed sometimes have their share of problems. You hear on the news and read in the papers stories about restaurants being closed for not keeping up with codes and sanitary standards, but I believe someone who is baking from their own home would not wind up in this type of a situation. Knowing that someone is judging you, your desserts and your kitchen, which reflects the heart of your home, will definitely keep one on their toes!

I can also see other advantages to this: more jobs in this current recessed economic climate, incubator kitchen situations for the home baker (if (s)he can start the business out of the home kitchen and expand it enough (while making a profit from it) then (s)he might actually open up a commercial bakery), stimulation of the states economy would also come from the baker purchasing supplies, equipment, insurance, taking food handling classes, and other business-related necessities. I remember mentioning the rental of a commercial kitchen to my ________________(insert relation cousin, friend, sibling, etc.) only to be told that to find one is a job in itself. When looking on Craigs List and some other sites, there are numerous requests from those looking for kitchens and rarely any ads to rent a kitchen. This situation is extremely frustrating and problematic for those bakers that want to be above-board and legal.

Finally, if you were to consider writing a bill for this, it would be a shame to have gone through all of this and still have some bakers not reap any reward due to zoning issues. Maybe that could be addressed as well a built-in variance or waiver since this type of a business would not create much traffic only occasional meetings before hand (tastings, deposits are sometimes done beforehand and usually only in the case of wedding cakes), and of course, delivery or pick-up of the baked goods.

Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to read and consider this issue.

Sincerely,


Name
Address
Phone
E-mail
Web Site (if applicable)
-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
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-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
Reply
post #27 of 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugar_Plum_Fairy

Quote:
Originally Posted by panchanewjersey

Gosh, that's a darn good letter, too bad we can't do something like that in California. I wish you guys the best Jersey girls. I was born there in Camden but raised in Cali, my heart still belongs to Jersey. Best of luck!



Thanks so much for your kind wishes. Just one question: why aren't you able to do something like this in California? I know their laws are pretty stringent; is that why?



Yeah, stringent! It's like asking Hitler to free the Jews, if you know what I mean.
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post #28 of 125
I have some specific ideas on what to do besides a petition and letter writing, which is a great start. as soon as I figure out how to pm sugarplumfairy, I will send her my suggestions. (I have had some experience in getting new laws passed in NJ, not easy though)
post #29 of 125
Thread Starter 
Patty, thanks again.

I just want everyone to know, in case there was some confusion, that this letterwriting campaign and the eventual petition are only the first steps in a very long, uphill battle.

The letterwriting (which includes faxing, e-mailing, and calling) is for a twofold reason: one - we want to make our representatives aware that there is a want and need for change; and, two - we're hoping at least one person (whether it's a senator, assemblyman or assemblywoman) will respond to a letter, e-mail or call to show interest also and, hopefully (our real goal) offer to auther a bill for us to bring to Committee.

If someone should get in touch with you, give them your heartfelt reasons for wanting a law allowing residential bakeries. Also, please, don't forget to let us all know about it!!

Once we have at least one response we'll start the petition going in order to send to the rep willing to author the bill and show just how much support there is behind such a bill.

Don't forget, keep writing those letters. Last week I wrote to my district's reps and tomorrow I am planning on e-mailing as many as I can all over NJ (hopefully all of them). Monday I am planning on calling my senator and two assemblypeople to see if they received my letters, as well as sending e-mails to them also.
-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
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-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
Reply
post #30 of 125
Thread Starter 
Okay, here's an update:

I just finished e-mailing each and every rep. (except for the three in my district to which I instead mailed to each of them a three page letter and 11 pages of enclosures). I then called them on Monday, though I didn't reach the Senator (busy signal). I still owe his office a phone call.

I did get a letter back from one of my reps in today's mail.
The news is not positive. Here's what the letter states:

Dear Ms. DeStefano,

I have had my staff research your proposal to amend NJAC 8:24 to include legalizing residential kitchens. This so-called "cottage industry" is not done by Statute but is regulated by Administrative Code Title 8 of the Department of Health; which has the force of the law. The issue has come before the department in prior years and the officials have determined that allowing this industry would not be feasible; not only for health reasons but it would be untenable for them to send inspectors into private residences all over the state.

Regrettably, I have been convinced by the professionals that changing this regulation would not be in the best interest of the citizens of the state.

Thank you for your interest.

Sincerely,

Peter J. Biondi



So I guess it's safe to say, Mr. Biondi is not for changing any laws. This means I'll be writing more letters as well, too, outside of my district (in addition to the e-mails). I'm sure there have to be some Reps that will see the benefits of a Cottage Food law 'on the books'.

Has anyone else received any sort of response from anyone? Negative or positive?
-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
Reply
-Grace

"Shades of grey wherever I go;
The more I find out the less that I know."
- Billy Joel
"What color's the icing in your world?" - Me
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