A Thread For All Uk Bakers!!
Decorating By hailinguk Updated 25 Aug 2017 , 10:29am by Magic Mouthfuls
AAw Jo so happy, I know its only cake but if it doesn't turn out right and you know your a good cook its so annoying. Let me know what you think of taste and texture.
Mine are settling on the table ready for crumb coating tomorrow, then I have to make a 9inch round lemon sponge for a hen party on Sat, it will be made exactly the same but with lemon zest in it
AOk cool! Going to bake another two of these Nanny cook as just measured my one at 1" so want to achieve a 3" deep cake, still want be using as many ingredients as previous so that's a bonus! Also I really wanted to have a layer buttercream then one layer jam so it's all good !!
AI did once, back last yer, there I was happy in the kitchen making a christening cake, all crumb coated and just about to cover it, I had cut out the name, date etc, then my daughter me some details of her address, then said, what time week after next are you going over with the cake, talk about panic, I ever did til her I had the wrong date, Had to recut New dates,grrr
So obviously that ended up in the freezer all filled and coated. Nit wit I am!!
AFair enough Jo, the trainers cake had 3 layers, so sometimes I do sometimes I dont, guess it depends on how much they pay, god I'm getting hard!!
I guess you can always do a 4 egg mix, it would still turn out better then if you did one big cake I think
AJean I'm so sorry it's not behaving for you :-(
Those little cracks appear if under kneaded ie the SP is too cold, also if it's too dry;if it cracks when you roll it Knead in a little trex.
Thinner is harder too! I roll mine to about 6mm.
Now bubbles for me come from 2 things, One:after you seal the cake in SP it becomes airtight, so if the air trapped inside all the cakes little bubbles is cold, once it warms up it'll expand, if it can't get out it'll bubble randomly, and if the SP has dried a bit it'll just crack when you pop the bubble, so I make a deliberate hole somewhere a bit of decoration will be going.
Two: SP is heavy, when you cover the cake the SP will actually compress it slightly, and the air squeezed out will bubble, so I put a dinner mat on top of my cake with the amount of sp I'll be needing to cover it on top and let that weigh it down for an hour or so, then I cover :-)
Tried not to make that all long winded.... Think I failed.... Lol
AHa ha !! Well now I know this way will work I'm quiting baking the 9" for a week or so as lots in this week! Have a horse themed cake to bake as 8" round for Saturday ! Will bake another two 9" next week for my trail at stacking my 6" choc on top! Thanks for all your advice everyone x
Nannycook the chart drops off just after the 9" could you please try another pic to include whole page ? Sorry to be a pest but the wedding cake I have to do is bottom tier 10" x
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Welcome to the thread Jo!
Those of you who have bought from sugarpaste direct, maybe you can tell me where I've gone wrong. I'm having massive problems with it. The problems began after placing it on a cake that had come out of a very cold fridge (about 3C). The started smoothing the top bit first, then worked my way down the cake and that's when I noticed loads of tiny cracks all over (they looked like elephant skin except they were horizontal. The top edges started cracking too. I kept going and started smoothing the top bit and I couldn't smooth it- the fondant had gone all tacky. I guess it was reacting to the very cold cake. I spread cornflour all over the side just so I could smooth it. Managed to smooth it but had to paint the cake in vodka just to get rid of all the cornstarch. After a few hours- more problems!! I noticed air pockets on the top. Then later on after that, I saw bubbles (not just air pockets!) around the side. When I popped those, the sugarpaste just cracked.
For the meantime, I'm going to cover the cake again. I won't even bother taking off the fondant that's already there. I'm so disappointed! Even renshaw was better than this. I'm wondering if I've under- kneaded and if sugarpaste direct stuff doesn't like very cold cakes. I've never had bubbles before and this much cracking!
Sorry I'm ignoring the previous posts- just that this cake is for tomorrow and I just wanted it to look nice for my aunt and uncle.
Hi Petitecat;
I also experienced every single thing you've described above when I used the sugarpaste direct; so you're definitely not alone.
AGray, I'll have to copy paste all you've said for future reference! I did put a few books on top of the cake for about 1-2hrs to get the bubbles out. I guess it wasn't enough time. I've heard here on Cc about some pushing a skewer through their cakes as a matter of course. Don't know whether that's worth doing. I've recovered the cake in another batch of fondant, different brand. Looks great with just a few bubbles here and there which I can hide with decor. Poor hubby was wondering why I was in a mood this evening!
Nanny, I did the exact same thing- started on a cake two weeks early. Got put in the freezer too. What are we like lol
Here's a pic of the cake before I covered with more fondant:
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A[@]Kadesan[/@], good to know I'm not alone lol. did you figure out a solution by any chance? I've got 4.5 kilos left over!
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Tried not to make that all long winded.... Think I failed.... Lol
I'm always waffling on here. Find it difficult to stop typing! I. Between pauses I'm looking at cake...:D
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@Kadesan, good to know I'm not alone lol. did you figure out a solution by any chance? I've got 4.5 kilos left over!
No solution yet petitecat :( I've just relegated it to the back of my cupboard; so to speak. I've reverted back to the previous brands of fondant I get on with. I just use the sugarpaste direct for gumpaste and for covering boards now. May re-try the sugarpaste direct again in the future; but NOT on a customer's cake :)
AWow the edges are so perfect, it's a shame if it wasn't for the bubble it looks great!
Even with all the stuff I said I still get bubbles sometimes it drives me bonkers!!
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There you go Jo, ha ha, that rhymes.
AGot one for choc cake too Jo, where you mix your cocoa powder to a paste first, happy to give it to you.
Are you making 3 tier cake then Jo? Your bound to be confident if your doing that though.
Believe me I'm learning all the time.
I've just turned down a Chance to be in a Cake off or Caerphilly food festival, you have to take your cake then design it in Caerphilly Borough council theme, in front of an audience then be judged, no way can I do that so I turned it down, was very chuffed to be asked though.
AHows it going Jean?, how come my edges are not as sharp as you and Bashini's then? What am I not doing?
Thank you by the way Bashini for lovely comments and anyone else I forgot.
Judging by FB Bashini your in for a busy night then?
Ah that sounds like a wonderful thing to be a part of, but understand your apprehension I'm sure i would be the same. However judging from your pics you really do have a talent NannyCook. I have to test my two tier next week as Christening is on 1st June, then my other friend gets married in a years time so have lots of time to practice the 3 tier cake !
AThank you Jo.
I had a consultation last Wed for a wedding on the 20th Dec this year, first time to do That and I was very nervous.
She's having a very Christmassy wedding and cake, poinsettias, holly and berries, not sure how to do it yet but got loads of time.
Then a 4 tier next Oct for my colleague, very simple with edible diamante`s and lemon ribbon.
AOK, where is everyone? How come I'm chatting away? You all busy are you? I'm chilling!!
AHi nanny, I'm here, I've been reading. I've been lurking on another thread today actually, really interesting. I'm off to bed now tho, G'nite all. :-)
Yes it is nice to keep learning new things, I hope that I can tier properly! Can I ask what you all secure each cake with between tiers, royal icing or buttercream ? If royal do you whisk up your own, only I have seen a packet mix for royal icing and thought this may be more handy for the small amount needed ?
ANight Maisie.
I make up my own royal icing, I have merriwhite, so not to waste it I make it as and when needed, I always use that between tiers as it drys solid
AEvening all, wow you lot have been busy. I can't keep up so I'm not going to try. I will say though, Maisie really glad you daughter is better and back at school. Kathy, nice to see you back, hope things have settled a bit for you. Nanny I love the trainers :)
Right that's all I can remember lol.
I have spent 3 days gardening during the day and working on my assessment piece in the evening so not been posting but have been reading. I spent ages last night paint the roses red, it's fun as per the story but I did two properly as they were so pretty I had to treat them nicely. Just got a couple more calyx's to do tomorrow and then tape them.
I don't remember the last time I had an early night but only 6 wks left in college and then it's done. Hopefully I might get on a bit tomorrow but out with my daughter in the morn and gardening in the pm again (I will have a pretty garden this year, weeds need not apply lol) and then more mad hatters, white rabbits and funky catapillers in the evening to model. Fun fun.
Night all x
AGood morning all!!! :)
Barbara, yes, I had a late night yesterday.. Had to make some roses. It's for a 40th birthday.:smile:
Jo, I also use royal icing between tiers when stacking. I don't make my own. I just buy the ready to use one. Add some water to a small amount of RI sugar and mix it to the consistency I want. :) And I use this to do really simple things on a cake such as boarders and scrolls and things like that. :smile:
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Oh Jean, your not hiding in my house are you? Thats exactly what I posted last night, I covered it in renshaws as I've just started using this, and like you try to smooth it and there were tiny cracks on the edges, doing my head in as I go back to it every now and again so I thought it was my fault and I caused it to happen, I was so afraid that when it was gonna be picked up I actually thought the fondant would break when touched.
I took the fondant off, I was terrified it would be damaged, but it covered fine and it turned out OK.
Nanny, I always get cracks on the edges of my cake with Renshaws!! Would love to hide in your house and watch you bake cakes, then eat them (while still hiding) LOL
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