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post #61 of 127
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Originally Posted by indydebi

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Originally Posted by Lori17201

The point is that it is a cake. And if it replicates their design it can be copyright infringement.

That said, they should be happy that people are giving them free publicity and thank all the bakers who are honoring them with the cake purses.

Personally, Louie and Coach aren't worth the price anyway, but that's just my opinion. I rather spend the money on cake supplies!



i agree with spending the money on cake supplies. i find the rest to be ridicuplous....do they think the people are going to carry around a cake as a purse. its one thing a knock of purse but cake that will be eaten...come off it.



Am I just tired and brain dead or something? Because this argument is SO not logical to me. icon_confused.gif

Saying that people can tell the difference between a cake and a purse as justification for reproducing a copyrighted image .... you could say the same thing about Mickey Mouse. That people can tell the difference between a cartoon on a movie screen and a cake. But it's still a copyrighted image.

If I'm missing something, explain it to me. But this argument has holes in it so big you can drive a truck thru them, and it is not making any sense to me what so ever. icon_confused.gif



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post #62 of 127
Hey, I sure wish I could remember the link (If it is still around) where some guy goes into a bakery & attempts to order a (let's say) Disney(?) based cake for his 6 yrs son. It ended up in court and basically the final outcome was:
If a Disney (or LV or any other licensed character) cake was help up in court and *anyone* in the room could identify who that character was then the bakery looses icon_sad.gif

We have been over and over this copyright issue sooooooo many times. It is just ILLEGAL to make them. If you want to take your chances like so many others that we see on line - well don't come crying to me that you need to be bailed out of jail. I'm sorry.
If we can agree on keeping pricing rather close then we need to support one another on this issue and **Just Say NO!** to *anything* copyrighted.
post #63 of 127
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Originally Posted by bizatchgirl

To the PP who posted about Weird Al, as you can see from the post about Parodies, Weird Al did not need permission from Coolio and therefore he didn't get 'in trouble' for using Gangsters' Paradise for his Amish Paradise.

Out of courtesy, Weird Al always asks for permission. According to Al's side of the story, he got permission from Coolio's rep, but not Coolio himself. When Coolio heard the actual song, he was not happy that it was used in such away.

It was more of a personal disagreement, and possibly a misunderstanding, over Al using the song. Never did Al get in trouble.

icon_confused.gif I am a huge, huge, huge Weird Al fan, and have seen him several times in concert. So, I know the details (at least the public ones) of that whole thing.
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Also, the silver purse on their web site has come up on CC quite recently. So, I am glad that this has been kept to discussion about copyright only, and nothing personal about the designer. icon_biggrin.gif



I posted about Weird Al, and as I had said, I vaguely remembered him getting into it with Coolio. And after looking it up, I see now that it wasn't due to copyright issues...Coolio didn't like the parody and publicly said so.

Anyhoo, that's what popped into my mind at the time I first read this thread. Sorry if I caused any confusion! icon_redface.gif

As for this whole LV issue, I see it as any other copyright case...if you use the logo or replicate the likeness without permission, you run the risk of getting slapped with a lawsuit. If you feel you can get away with it by changing a few things, I bid you good luck.

But as someone else already pointed out, there are plenty of other cute purse cake designs we can do without worry!
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post #64 of 127
INDYDEBI
So as long as I smoke the reefer fast enough, it's ok?

TXCUPCAKE
No, you have to flush weed. Duh!

ROFL I have coffee comimng out of my nose.

I remeber a few years back LV took Britney Spears to court for having his logo in a car on her video and won.
post #65 of 127
No apologies needed, bakerbear. The Weird Al /Coolio thing is one of those not so entertaining stories that somehow make it to the level of urban legend. Really, I think Coolio felt his song was a serious song about serious issues and couldn't be a grown up when Weird Al turned it into the hilarious Amish Paradise that some of us know and love icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

To me, it also is just not worth the risk of getting into copyright trouble. I will do as others do and continue to make character cakes for free for family only.

If the occasion came up to do a fancy purse, it would have to be more of a 'generic' purse, even if it was for family. Mainly because I can't see myself hand painting LV over and over like some of you crazy cake people on here icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
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post #66 of 127
I made it to forum fanatic and I didn't even notice icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

Lots of help from the OE thread I'm sure icon_redface.gif
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post #67 of 127
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Originally Posted by indydebi



I can do a naked Minnie Mouse humping Goofy and Disney certainly wouldn't want THAT kind of "free publicity" on their character / creation.





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post #68 of 127
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Originally Posted by txcupcake

There is a huge difference between selling a purse that's supposed to look like an LV purse and selling a CAKE that's supposed to look like an LV purse. They are apples and oranges (which means, as I stated earlier, that no reasonable person would mistake a cake for a purse).

Disney, Warner Bros., etc. won't allow the manufacturing of specific decorations to be placed on cakes without their okay. Conveniently, they make cake decorations so there is technically no need for a bakery to make their own without infringing on copyrights. In other words, Disney-made decor and homemade Disney rip-off decor = apples and apples because a reasonable person could mistake an awesomely crafted gumpaste Snow White for a Disney-manufactured Snow White.

Now, a lot of bakers get around this copyright by interpreting Disney's copyrighted designs in a way that Disney can not manufacture. For example, Courtney at Cake Nouveau has a beautiful Snow White inspired cake on her website (I can't post a specific link, but it's on the second page of her gallery).

It's obviously Disney, but not in the same way a gumpaste statue of Snow White is Disney. Why? You can buy a statue of Snow White from Disney, but you can't buy the essence of Snow White. Apples and oranges.

Anyway, the point of this long-a$$ post is to say that unless you are comparing apples to apples there really isn't a point. I doubt that LV would have a very strong case based on the reasonable person paradigm.

Whew! Now where's my drink? icon_lol.gif



But the second you put a duplicate of hte LV logo on the cake youa re no longer making a cake with the "essence" of a LV purse, you are illegally making a cape with a trademarked logo that you don't have permission to use. THAT'S where the problem is! You can make all the purse cakes you want "in the style of" LV, Coach, whatever... why once you use their logo (or even a stylized version of your own logo to imply it is one of those brands) you have violated their copyright.
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post #69 of 127
and in another "sorta off topic" stray thought--- this copyright protection for LV or Disney is not much different from us bakers who don't allow ANY other cake (kitchen cakes) be served because the original decorator reputation is at stake. Bakers want to protect their rights/ reputation as do the "big guys".

OK, and yeah, sure... and to make a buck.....but....

Trademark/ reputation is all you have...
post #70 of 127
i don't think the people are crazy for making the LV purses.
post #71 of 127
I am lost here....are we discussing whether or not it is illegal...or whether or not we can get by doing something illegal and not get caught?

Since I have posted, I will now get emails for thread #237 "is it illegal to do a copyrighted design".
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post #72 of 127
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Originally Posted by k8memphis

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icon_rolleyes.gif Oh my dear, sweet K8! Your southern charm is just so adorable...but! Let a New Yorker teach you how to say it...ahem!

Fuhgeddaboudit!!
post #73 of 127
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Originally Posted by BCJean

I am lost here....are we discussing whether or not it is illegal...or whether or not we can get by doing something illegal and not get caught?

Since I have posted, I will now get emails for thread #237 "is it illegal to do a copyrighted design".



Pretty sure we're talking about flushing the brownies before we get smoked. Because Louie, Mickie, Weird Al and Coolio (but not Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs--well five outa seven whaddayah gonna do) are gonna sue our asses off permanently because we didn't save them any brownies.

Yah gettin' me?

Now all we gotta figure out is scratch or mix brownies.
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post #74 of 127
k8memphis, why you gotta go start the scratch vs. mix debate!? icon_smile.gif

Now you know we're really gonna need some "brownies" for that one! lol!
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post #75 of 127
k8, you're killing me here! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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