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post #16 of 121
Thread Starter 
I've calmed down now, thanks everyone. I just thought I would give an update... I've decided it would be ridiculous to start a lunch menu since I barely have time for what I do now! my coffee sales never were that good because of the coffee shop so I had decided to discontinue selling coffee and stick with Teas, as someone mentioned above. Anyway...now, instead of discontinuing it I've decided to offer a free coffee with every purchase...

I was throwing it away anyway so this really was a loss for me so why not just give it away... I believe that this will actually bring in some people who may not have come in otherwise. And since I've been throwing away coffee at the end of every day (some days I wouldn't sell any) what would be the difference? Except that it would generate sells that weren't there before! Am I making sense? I think this is a great way to "play" the business game...
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post #17 of 121
Thread Starter 
I've calmed down now, thanks everyone. I just thought I would give an update... I've decided it would be ridiculous to start a lunch menu since I barely have time for what I do now! my coffee sales never were that good because of the coffee shop so I had decided to discontinue selling coffee and stick with Teas, as someone mentioned above. Anyway...now, instead of discontinuing it I've decided to offer a free coffee with every purchase...

I was throwing it away anyway so this really was a loss for me so why not just give it away... I believe that this will actually bring in some people who may not have come in otherwise. And since I've been throwing away coffee at the end of every day (some days I wouldn't sell any) what would be the difference? Except that it would generate sells that weren't there before! Am I making sense? I think this is a great way to "play" the business game...
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post #18 of 121
I wanna be like txkat when I grow up! icon_biggrin.gif
post #19 of 121
I always cringe when I see people posting vents about their business or competitors when they have their personal/business info and name in their profile. You are giving other people insight into your thought processes and perhaps an edge when they can google you and find posts like this.

Just a word of caution.

Good luck - I hope it works out and you can both be successful and co-exist peacefully.
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
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post #20 of 121
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Originally Posted by OhMyGanache

I always cringe when I see people posting vents about their business or competitors when they have their personal/business info and name in their profile. You are giving other people insight into your thought processes and perhaps an edge when they can google you and find posts like this.

Just a word of caution.

Good luck - I hope it works out and you can both be successful and co-exist peacefully.




First, I love your screen name ohmyganache, I smile every time I read it icon_smile.gif I couldn't agree more with your above comment. Since this site is not just for the professional baker or business owner, everyone really should be careful about the information they post.

I've decided to not post any pictures of cakes that I've sold on here. Many times I tell clients to look through the galleries here for ideas and the last thing I want is for one of them to see one of their past cakes and than to read a post where I may have been complaining about a client icon_redface.gif I also do not link my business web site and I don't use the same screen name anywhere else. One thing I really don't like about the internet is the ability to find out just about anything about anyone. My goal is to not make it easy for them to do that.

To the OP..........Since the Coffee Shop started selling carrot and red velvet cake, have you noticed your sales are down at all?

Do you sell cake by the slice as they do or just whole cakes? If you don't sell just slices maybe this is why they feel it's not a conflict with your business. I would approach them in a friendly way since the last thing you want is an all out war with your business neighbors.

Definitely check the fine print in your lease about businesses selling the same products, this may be the weapon you need to get them to stop selling their cakes.

Good luck, let us know what happens.
Deb
post #21 of 121
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Originally Posted by dkelly

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Originally Posted by OhMyGanache

I always cringe when I see people posting vents about their business or competitors when they have their personal/business info and name in their profile. You are giving other people insight into your thought processes and perhaps an edge when they can google you and find posts like this.

Just a word of caution.

Good luck - I hope it works out and you can both be successful and co-exist peacefully.




First, I love your screen name ohmyganache, I smile every time I read it icon_smile.gif I couldn't agree more with your above comment. Since this site is not just for the professional baker or business owner, everyone really should be careful about the information they post.

I've decided to not post any pictures of cakes that I've sold on here. Many times I tell clients to look through the galleries here for ideas and the last thing I want is for one of them to see one of their past cakes and than to read a post where I may have been complaining about a client icon_redface.gif I also do not link my business web site and I don't use the same screen name anywhere else. One thing I really don't like about the internet is the ability to find out just about anything about anyone. My goal is to not make it easy for them to do that.

To the OP..........Since the Coffee Shop started selling carrot and red velvet cake, have you noticed your sales are down at all?

Do you sell cake by the slice as they do or just whole cakes? If you don't sell just slices maybe this is why they feel it's not a conflict with your business. I would approach them in a friendly way since the last thing you want is an all out war with your business neighbors.

Definitely check the fine print in your lease about businesses selling the same products, this may be the weapon you need to get them to stop selling their cakes.

Good luck, let us know what happens.
Deb



Oh no...I want my copetition to know I think of them as JC Pennys and us as Neiman Marcus. icon_wink.gif
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post #22 of 121
tbroskosky:

I really do not have any advice for you, but I was so excited to see you were in Carlisle! My DH and I lived ther before we moved to OH. Our families still live in PA (Mechanicsburg and Hershey) and we get home in the summer and at Christmas. I would love to come visit your shop this summer when we are home!!!
post #23 of 121
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Originally Posted by txkat



Oh no...I want my copetition to know I think of them as JC Pennys and us as Neiman Marcus. icon_wink.gif



As much as I respect what you do and your success thus far, I would have to say that this comes off as very snobby. I would never want to appear that I thought I was better than anyone else - I would let my baked goods speak for themselves. Even your competition can sometimes be your allies. I try to foster good relationships with those in the same business - you never know when it may come in handy.
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post #24 of 121
I think it's okay to be "snobby" sometimes. I'm in the cake snob club, I know there are others here who are also members. The competition can sometimes be allies, but there are different kinds of "competition," if that makes sense. Some shops here are my competition, and some are cake shops that sell to a different customer base, and they are the Walmart to my Neiman's. If you know who's who it makes it easier overall, and I do refer out to shops who are my "equal" in terms of product. I don't want to refer someone to a crappy shop, that would reflect badly on my judgment. So if that makes me sound snobby, okay.

And I know very well that I'm better than some of them, and some of them might be better than me, oh well.

But I don't post my business info here either, for the same reasons dkelly doesn't.
post #25 of 121
Oh believe me, I know who I'm better than - and who I am not. However, I would never have that attitude that I couldn't mingle with the hoi polloi. If someone wishes to have that attitude in private - that's one thing. But to post it in a public forum is doing yourself a disservice in my opinion. Because while you may be "the sh*t" at the moment - what about 5 years from now? Alienate people now, and it could come back to bite you in the butt (because they will try harder to bring you down and celebrate when you fall) - that's all I'm sayin'.

Also, it seems very mean to try to rub other peoples' noses in your success. Just my opinion.
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post #26 of 121
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Originally Posted by costumeczar

I'm in the cake snob club, I know there are others here who are also members.



Some people can't afford me .... and that's ok!

I guess that qualifies me for membership, too!

But I dont' just post that in a public forum. I freely say it in front of people all the time. thumbs_up.gif
post #27 of 121
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Originally Posted by OhMyGanache

Oh believe me, I know who I'm better than - and who I am not. However, I would never have that attitude that I couldn't mingle with the hoi polloi. If someone wishes to have that attitude in private - that's one thing. But to post it in a public forum is doing yourself a disservice in my opinion. Because while you may be "the sh*t" at the moment - what about 5 years from now? Alienate people now, and it could come back to bite you in the butt (because they will try harder to bring you down and celebrate when you fall) - that's all I'm sayin'.

Also, it seems very mean to try to rub other peoples' noses in your success. Just my opinion.



Nobody likes Martha Stewart either, and she's a billionaire. There's a difference between those who are in this as a real business, and those who dabble. I have my life savings plus a hefty mortgage in my business, and I'm not really in it to make friends.

I work upwards of 70 hours every week, so I don't think that kind of work schedule is much to "rub people's noses in". I am however proud to say that nobody is willing to work as hard as we do to make sure our desserts are perfect, fresh, and made from scratch.


Every successful business has a marketing plan and a target audience. Mine is the customer who would want Martha Stewart to make their cake. Those who want Paula Dean can go someplace else.
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Inrideo ergo sum ~ I snark therefore I am.
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post #28 of 121
Have I mentioned lately how much I want to be like txkat when I grow up? icon_rolleyes.gif
post #29 of 121
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Originally Posted by indydebi

Have I mentioned lately how much I want to be like txkat when I grow up? icon_rolleyes.gif



I heart you too, Debi!!
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Inrideo ergo sum ~ I snark therefore I am.
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post #30 of 121
I think Rachel Ray's empire is gaining on Martha's - and she got there by being nice and working hard. You can be good, and not be a b*tch about it is all I'm sayin'. (NOT calling you a b*tch txkat) And insulting your competition in a public forum is a good way to develop serious hard feelings.

For instance - I worked for a start-up bakery/cafe. It didn't work out (she thought she was Gordon Ramsey) and I would have been fine with that. However, since they spoke down to me like I was garbage and it was THEIR name on the door so they should be worshiped - well, I am going to be working THAT much harder to put them out of business and humiliate them just a little (or hopefully - a lot). Yes, I can be spiteful. Had they had not been so disrespectful and tried to humiliate me, I wouldn't have given them a second thought, and wouldn't have minded being friendly. But now? Well, let's just say - "IT'S ON!" icon_smile.gif

In essence, if you want people to respect you - don't you also need to show them respect?
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