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post #46 of 177
Before I was turned in to the HD, and before I became "legal", I wrestled with the whole "legality/morality" of it. It was something that was difficult for me. I had young children and I asked myself, "How can I tell them that it's wrong to break the law for some things and not others?" I struggled with that question as I became busier and busier. We prayed about it and were actually looking for facilities to possibly rent, but the cost was outrageous. When I got the call from the HD, I kinda felt it was an answer to prayer. I'm definitely not saying that God is out there looking to punish people who are baking cakes in their home, but if you're feeling conviction about it and you go to Him in prayer, that he'll answer those prayers... possibly in ways we don't like. I believe that what these ladies meant for "harm", turned out for the best for me and my family! I had friends and customers that were livid with these gals and told me all sorts of things they were going to do to get even. Part of me even wanted to, but I knew it wasn't up to me to get "pay-backs". As I said in my previous post, they got what was coming to them and they were shortly out of business.
post #47 of 177
i'm assuming that you're assuming that there's been an assumption...hehehehe icon_biggrin.gif
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post #48 of 177
It is assumed because that what everyone keeps saying.. "how could you turn someone in just because" and turning someone in just because is mean and spiteful"... it goes both ways. (not direct quotes)

Interesting read on the cottage food laws though. I am willing to bet that everyone operating under the umbrella of the cottage food law has not sent in their application for every item they sell (if at all). So even they are operating illegally and can get busted for that. Cottage food laws aren't as much of a free ride as many think them to be.
post #49 of 177
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Originally Posted by j-pal

Before I was turned in to the HD, and before I became "legal", I wrestled with the whole "legality/morality" of it. It was something that was difficult for me. I had young children and I asked myself, "How can I tell them that it's wrong to break the law for some things and not others?" I struggled with that question as I became busier and busier. We prayed about it and were actually looking for facilities to possibly rent, but the cost was outrageous. When I got the call from the HD, I kinda felt it was an answer to prayer. I'm definitely not saying that God is out there looking to punish people who are baking cakes in their home, but if you're feeling conviction about it and you go to Him in prayer, that he'll answer those prayers... possibly in ways we don't like. I believe that what these ladies meant for "harm", turned out for the best for me and my family! I had friends and customers that were livid with these gals and told me all sorts of things they were going to do to get even. Part of me even wanted to, but I knew it wasn't up to me to get "pay-backs". As I said in my previous post, they got what was coming to them and they were shortly out of business.



I really commend you for your attitude and I wish you all the best. Too often it's all about getting even and that is the part I was referring to - spirit. The spirit of the heart really spells everything out pretty clearly to me...
post #50 of 177
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Originally Posted by mixinvixen

i'm assuming that you're assuming that there's been an assumption...hehehehe icon_biggrin.gif



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Wow it's getting heated in here! Everyone please retract your claws!
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post #51 of 177
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Originally Posted by RobzC8kz

That being said, yes, if someone is baking and decorating from a house with filth all over it and cat boxes everywhere, then they should be turned in.




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post #52 of 177
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Originally Posted by mixinvixen

i'm assuming that you're assuming that there's been an assumption...hehehehe icon_biggrin.gif



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post #53 of 177
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Originally Posted by jkalman


Interesting read on the cottage food laws though. I am willing to bet that everyone operating under the umbrella of the cottage food law has not sent in their application for every item they sell (if at all). So even they are operating illegally and can get busted for that. Cottage food laws aren't as much of a free ride as many think them to be.



In MA where I am, we're required to give them the recipes we will be using. Now, we all know how often we TRY a new recipe and I'm pretty sure they don't want a note from me every time I try one, only if I start selling this new product.

So the way I handle this little issue is.......I TRY all my new recipes in my upstairs family unlicensed kitchen (I have a separate licensed one in my basement) and if I decide to add this to my flavors that I sell, than I will fill out the appropriate form and mail it in. No, they never asked me for it, I just try to follow the laws as they were explained to me.
post #54 of 177
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Originally Posted by chutzpah

Who says that one is 'afraid of competition'?

Why is it always assumed that folks who turn others in are 'afraid of competition', or doing it 'just because' or to be 'immature and spiteful'?



Why do you assume that's what we're assuming? icon_biggrin.gif I believe there ARE legitimate reasons to turning people in! I'm only speaking to those who DO do it for no "good reason"...[/quot

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post #55 of 177
A pat on the back to home bakers and legal bakers. This is a very expensive hobby or job. I myself strugle with it all. I donate mine now that I am not "legal". I just fear the fines etc. My home is clean and I take pride in what I do or try and do and would hate always being afraid. My aunt recently passed away of cancer and we had a fundraiser to help come up with the money she needed to be layed at rest and the hd gave the okay that as long as I myself was not getting $ for the baked goods then they could sell them or ask for donations. I was happy with that. I have a relative who made and sold wedding cakes for years (still does actually) and the head of our county HD was one of her biggest orders and she wasn't even legal, never has been either. I guess that was part of being in a small town and they thought there was better things to do. Maybe someday when everything is better we can all make it work out. Good luck in what ever any does or decides. I know baking is a passion and I would hate for anyone to get into trouble for it, that is if they are not putting someone elses health at risk.
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post #56 of 177
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Originally Posted by dkelly27

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Originally Posted by jkalman


Interesting read on the cottage food laws though. I am willing to bet that everyone operating under the umbrella of the cottage food law has not sent in their application for every item they sell (if at all). So even they are operating illegally and can get busted for that. Cottage food laws aren't as much of a free ride as many think them to be.



In MA where I am, we're required to give them the recipes we will be using. Now, we all know how often we TRY a new recipe and I'm pretty sure they don't want a note from me every time I try one, only if I start selling this new product.

So the way I handle this little issue is.......I TRY all my new recipes in my upstairs family unlicensed kitchen (I have a separate licensed one in my basement) and if I decide to add this to my flavors that I sell, than I will fill out the appropriate form and mail it in. No, they never asked me for it, I just try to follow the laws as they were explained to me.



Yeah... that's what I was getting at. Not that you would have to submit every recipe that ever crossed your mind, but just the ones you use. icon_smile.gif In NH we are required to submit a product list but not the recipes.

I'm sure there are people operating under the umbrella of Cottage Food Laws that don't even know you have to submit anything to the state.. that's more of the angle I was coming from with my post. icon_biggrin.gif

(edited for some typos and bad grammar... eeeek)
post #57 of 177
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Originally Posted by chutzpah

Um, being Christian has absolutely nothing to do with abiding by federal, state and county laws.



Sure it does. They have to find some reason to let everyone know how holy and wonderful they are after all. icon_rolleyes.gif

That and the Bible does have a passage about "rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's" because we all know that people don't know to follow the laws without some 1700 year old holy book telling us to.
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post #58 of 177
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Originally Posted by mbelgard

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Originally Posted by chutzpah

Um, being Christian has absolutely nothing to do with abiding by federal, state and county laws.



Sure it does. They have to find some reason to let everyone know how holy and wonderful they are after all. icon_rolleyes.gif

That and the Bible does have a passage about "rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's" because we all know that people don't know to follow the laws without some 1700 year old holy book telling us to.



I must say that I take offense to the above comments. I feel that is a HUGE generalization and "assumption" regarding all of us with Faith. As a Christian, I believe that ANYONE or ANY belief system is WONDERFUL if they have a good heart and lead their life in a caring and moral way- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, doesn't matter, just be a good and kind person. I don't think she was saying that ONLY Christians believe in abiding by laws, just that as a part of her Christianity, she does (same as all lions are cats, not all cats are lions). Faith is a comfort to those of us who have it, and if those without a religious belief are happy and comforted in their lives that is what matters. Please don't be so judgemental to those of us who practice a religion, we all have a right to our own beliefs - a law of my land. Also, somewhat off topic, I just finished reading The Shack and The Faith Club, I highly recommend both thumbs_up.gif .

That being said, my belief system (just me, personally, ya'll have a right to your own beliefs on this) is that it is not my place to judge others. I wouldn't turn anyone for any reason other than unsanitary practices.
post #59 of 177
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Originally Posted by NCmomof3boys

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Originally Posted by mbelgard

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Originally Posted by chutzpah

Um, being Christian has absolutely nothing to do with abiding by federal, state and county laws.



Sure it does. They have to find some reason to let everyone know how holy and wonderful they are after all. icon_rolleyes.gif

That and the Bible does have a passage about "rendering unto Caesar what is Caesar's" because we all know that people don't know to follow the laws without some 1700 year old holy book telling us to.



I must say that I take offense to the above comments. I feel that is a HUGE generalization and "assumption" regarding all of us with Faith. As a Christian, I believe that ANYONE or ANY belief system is WONDERFUL if they have a good heart and lead their life in a caring and moral way- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, doesn't matter, just be a good and kind person. I don't think she was saying that ONLY Christians believe in abiding by laws, just that as a part of her Christianity, she does (same as all lions are cats, not all cats are lions). Faith is a comfort to those of us who have it, and if those without a religious belief are happy and comforted in their lives that is what matters. Please don't be so judgemental to those of us who practice a religion, we all have a right to our own beliefs - a law of my land. Also, somewhat off topic, I just finished reading The Shack and The Faith Club, I highly recommend both thumbs_up.gif .

That being said, my belief system (just me, personally, ya'll have a right to your own beliefs on this) is that it is not my place to judge others. I wouldn't turn anyone for any reason other than unsanitary practices.



Well said! And, frankly, that "1700 year old holy book" could do wonders for many in this world! Just watch the news today!

While each religion is different - can't we all agree that the lacking morality in society is a MAJOR problem for co-existence & it only perpetuates terroristic activity in the world. We don't have to believe in the same religion to know that humanity is lacking in compassion & morality is going by the wayside. Each religion's bible, while the small details may vary, they all focus on being a good person. So....I say, bring on that 1700 year old holy book - the world needs a dose!
post #60 of 177
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Well said! And, frankly, that "1700 year old holy book" could do wonders for many in this world! Just watch the news today!

While each religion is different - can't we all agree that the lacking morality in society is a MAJOR problem for co-existence & it only perpetuates terroristic activity in the world. We don't have to believe in the same religion to know that humanity is lacking in compassion & morality is going by the wayside. Each religion's bible, while the small details may vary, they all focus on being a good person. So....I say, bring on that 1700 year old holy book - the world needs a dose![/quote]

Thank you. There are so many similarities among the different religions & belief systems, all are a framework for treating each other with respect and kindness, if everyone could follow the universal tenets for humanity we'd be in good shape. Of course, the Bible is what I'm familiar with but any of the Books provide a basis for this and I certainly don't claim to have all of the right answers because of my Christian beliefs. I have all the answers because I'm that wonderful & brilliant (said while rolling my eyes and laughing icon_lol.gif ).
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