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post #31 of 177
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Originally Posted by chutzpah

Boy Howdy are y'all quick on those judgements there....

Who says it was for 'no good reason'?

And speaking of karma (which I believe wholeheartedly in), breaking the law is sure not going to fill anyone's karma bag in a hurry.



Again...if there's a good reason - that's one thing. To do it just because is the issue here...
post #32 of 177
But why not 'just beacause'? Would you report someone breaking the law in another fashion?
post #33 of 177
This again?
post #34 of 177
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Originally Posted by leahs

So, following this logically and not emotionally, doing something that's illegal to make money because this economy sucks is OK?

So, can I bake cakes but not sell drugs?

How about reselling goods on Ebay that I suspect (but don't know for sure) were stolen from a local merchant?

Just wondering where that line is between the OK illegal activity and the bad illegal activity that several of you seem to know.

For the record I started out with, for lack of a long, drawn-out explanation, a mini-HD license that didn't permit cakes. I got caught and had to upgrade my license. And I got caught in the first two weeks.

In my world this stuff is actually pretty simple. Illegal is illegal. You can choose to not obey the law, but if you do that and get caught you suffer the consequences. I did. Getting my kitchen upgraded to pass the full license inspection cost some $. Not a tremendous amount but a coupla thousand.



Took the words right out of my mouth (fingers icon_biggrin.gif )

Also gotta agree w/jkalman's 1st post to the OP and add to that by asking..............What do you work for the HD or something? or Do you just get a kick out of hearing other people's hardship stories?

My advice to any future posters to this thread is don't answer if you're licensed or unlicensed. Could have a knock here. thumbsdown.gif

Back to "Officially Embarrassed" much more fun over there........ icon_lol.gif
post #35 of 177
Most people have a misunderstanding of Karma.. it is not "what comes around goes around" as a follower of Hinduism I know this. Karma is not "cause and effect", but "action".
It bothers me when that word is thrown around... I know, my issue. icon_rolleyes.gif

Just a thought... icon_wink.gif
post #36 of 177
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Originally Posted by chutzpah

But why not 'just beacause'? Would you report someone breaking the law in another fashion?



To me...it's the attitude behind actions that speaks volumes. If you're doing it just because - it just seems to me it's because you either enjoy hurting people and bring misery upon them or you just want to make sure that no one else gets a break in life because you're miserable. And by saying "you" I am not directing it towards you specifically!

So often people on their moral high grounds feels it's appropriate to "police" the world and all their actions. I realize that these people are not following the law but it's not my place to make sure their lives are moral. It's all about what you feel comfortable with. If someone feels comfortable taking away what might possibly be the only way they can afford a light bill or clothes for their children, especially in this economy then so be it. That's just not me. I think Karma also has to do with the spirit of the heart and "just because" is not a good reason. Do it because you're worried about safety - do it because you feel they are detriment to society but don't do it because it's wrong and you're going to teach them a lesson.

I realize you're not religious so our views are not always going to be compatible but for me, we are all going to be judged someday and it's not my responsibility to do the judging during my time here on earth....

Tammi
post #37 of 177
Hi SweetAsLemmons! I know a gal who was turned in for making various pies and such out of her home. Oh, they were deeeee-lish! She invested a lot of money in expensive high-end kitchen equipment in her home, and made the deliveries herself. The few times I was at there, I found her home to be impeccably clean (no pets). She thinks a neighbor might have turned her in for whatever reason. I didn't know it then, but in her state, you are not allowed to have a home kitchen; it must be a building completely separate from the home. Anyway... It was a nightmare for her when she was caught. Fines and other penalties. IRS wants to see all income records going back "x" years. ... As far as I know she never did get back into the business, either legally or illegally.

Bottom line: She knew what she was doing was wrong, and it was a chance she took.

.... Me? I'm patiently waiting to win the lottery. icon_biggrin.gif
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post #38 of 177
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Originally Posted by j-pal

Yes, I was turned in. I was teaching Wilton classes, plus doing lots of cakes on the side. Some students of mine opened a business, but were having difficulty doing the more difficult stuff because they weren't very experienced. We started an arrangement where they would take the orders, bring the cakes to me and then I would decorate them. Unfortunately, this became increasingly difficult because they didn't want to "pay" me. They wanted to just give me product and this wasn't working for me. We had a number of "disagreements" and things started going south. I "resigned" and told them that I'd be happy to give them advice, but that I was no longer able to work for them. The next day I received a phone call from the HD asking whether I was doing cakes from my home! I was stunned and just stood there with my mouth wide open, going, "uuuhhhh.... I can't believe they did that!!" They informed me I could no longer do cakes from my home or I would be fined. These ladies actually took credit for turning me in, and notified me that they also forwarded my website to the IRS and that they had "friends" who would be "checking" on me to make sure I wouldn't be taking any more cake orders. My car was vandalized that week and I lost a tire while driving down the freeway with my kids and 3 nieces and nephews in the suburban... any guesses who may've done that?!

I also know of at least 4 others in my area that were turned in... not from the same people.

But hey, I got the last laugh... I opened a business and before I'd been in business 6 months, the other ladies no longer were!



OMG!! I teach wilton classes and am just....speechless to say the least...that your students would take advantage of you like that and then have the nerve to turn you in!!! UGH!!! Bless your heart. Guess I'll have to watch my back more...
post #39 of 177
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Originally Posted by chutzpah

But why not 'just beacause'? Would you report someone breaking the law in another fashion?



Are we talking about baking cakes????? lol
mary
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post #40 of 177
One thing I've seen since I"ve started decorating cakes is that there is plenty to go around. Turning someone in just because you're afraid of competition is just plain immature and spitefull. That being said, yes, if someone is baking and decorating from a house with filth all over it and cat boxes everywhere, then they should be turned in. Someone said in a seperate post that home bakers are always getting a bum rap from the few individuals who do not keep a clean work area. I am trying to become legitimate 100%. Right now, I just work off family and friend referrals, no advertising, no full color ads in the phone book, or anything like that. Funny thing too is that my local bakery/supply shop sends me all their referrals for 3D cakes!! But they've been to my house and seen how I work, so they are comfortable doing it. I personally work off the HOPE that if I am caught, that a cease and desist will be issued BEFORE any legal action!! Again...I HOPE. But right now, the small income I do make from my cakes is the only thing keeping the lights on, heat on, and my car payment made.
post #41 of 177
Robz I hope you keep baking happily and tirelessly. Good
luck
mary
mary
post #42 of 177
Who says that one is 'afraid of competition'?

Why is it always assumed that folks who turn others in are 'afraid of competition', or doing it 'just because' or to be 'immature and spiteful'?
post #43 of 177
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post #44 of 177
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Originally Posted by mariu

i have not turned anyone in, AND i am currently unlicensed but going through the process of becoming legal...all that being said, you can bet that if i went into a "business" that is operating illegally or legally either one, and they had lax hygiene standards that could jeapordize the public's health, I WOULD CALL IN ON THEM....AND I DO HAVE A LIFE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

bleach, towels and rat poison can all be purchased at the dollar store for less than $5. there is no excuse for uncleanliness. THAT IS THE TRUE DISGRACE!



Like I said earlier "just because"..........not for the reasons you stated obviously![/quote]

then my apologies for misunderstanding.
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post #45 of 177
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Originally Posted by chutzpah

Who says that one is 'afraid of competition'?

Why is it always assumed that folks who turn others in are 'afraid of competition', or doing it 'just because' or to be 'immature and spiteful'?



Why do you assume that's what we're assuming? icon_biggrin.gif I believe there ARE legitimate reasons to turning people in! I'm only speaking to those who DO do it for no "good reason"...
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