Ace Of Cakes: How Does It Taste? (Review From Another Caker)

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SeriousCakes Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 3:57am
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Ok, I was watching the show the other night (I admit, I do it even though I am a buttercream gal) and they read a review from a local newspaper downing the taste.
I know a lot of people on here have posted wondering about how the cakes taste and I thought I would share what happened to another caker from the Wilton Forums:
http://www.wilton.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=4&threadid=107119&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=&STARTPAGE=3
It's on page 3 that she got the cake and described how it tasted, then on page 4 she posted pictures.

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KKC Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 4:14am
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Wow is all i have to say. I would've thought that their cakes taste incredible. The cake was pretty though!

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lifonahil Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 4:18am
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Wow that was very interesting.

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amazinggracecakedesigns Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 4:32am
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That is unbelievable!! I can't imagine paying that price for that size cake. I just had someone make a comment that a good cake is all about looks and presentation, not taste. I think this proves that if you don't have a moist and delicious cake, why bother having a cake at all. icon_smile.gif

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squarepair Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 4:33am
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I delivered a wedding cake to a restaurant the week after Charm City had delivered a groom's cake to the same place and the owner said the cake tasted terrible as well. Strangely enough I have had several clients say they have tasted cakes at some of the real famous places here in the DC area and have complained that the cakes tasted terrible. It always surprises me as baking a cake seems like something everyone can do, it is the decorating that is hard.

Kristin

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Kitagrl Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 4:47am
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Wow neat post.

I have ALOT of comments about my cake, like people in shock that a cake can actually look nice and taste nice too! I have had people call me word of mouth that wanted a cake only because they had a slice of one of my cakes somewhere and wanted to order something...anything...just to get that taste again for their own party.

I'm not saying I do anything special...CC is full of awesome bakers! I'm just big on a moist cake and I only bake cakes I personally like (and I'm picky) and I guess most people like it. And I do know fancy bakeries sometimes have a bad rap....one wedding I did, she reported that her guests were saying it "doesn't taste like wedding cake." (I thought wedding cake was cake was cake. haha)

Anyway...sheesh ok this post sounds full of ego....its really NOT...I guess I'm just saying that cakes are getting a bad rap and people are shocked if they "actually get a good one" so....most of us are doing GREAT in that area!

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Pastelitoz4u Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 4:58am
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WOW! Thanks Serious_Cakes for the link and post. Very interesting.....Hats off to Duff and his team for their art, but I also wondered how a cake with so much fondant would taste. Sometimes it sure seems that the cake is more fondant than bread. icon_confused.gif

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SeriousCakes Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 5:02am
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Kitagrl-ok, so about a year ago when I really started getting into this I had a conversation with a friend about some really bad tasting wedding cakes. She's like, 'Well, wedding cakes are supposed to taste bad!' icon_eek.gif I did a double take, after being on cakecentral I realized that I am not alone in thinking a cake should not just look good but taste good too. I also realized that a lot of bakeries are not like us icon_sad.gif The funny thing is that I took a cake to our pediatricians office as a thank you and the doctor personally thanked me for bringing in such a delicious cake! He said, 'Wow, it was so good, like a wedding cake!' icon_lol.gif I had to remember that wedding cakes are supposed to taste GOOD, and he was basing it off that.
I recently had to take a break from taking any orders for awhile (just need some off time, make the things *I* want to make for a change!!) and everyone was upset! I get most of my orders through hubby's work, like you, someone had a piece of my cake and just HAD to order something!

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Kitagrl Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 5:04am
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Kitagrl-ok, so about a year ago when I really started getting into this I had a conversation with a friend about some really bad tasting wedding cakes. She's like, 'Well, wedding cakes are supposed to taste bad!' icon_eek.gif I did a double take, after being on cakecentral I realized that I am not alone in thinking a cake should not just look good but taste good too. I also realized that a lot of bakeries are not like us icon_sad.gif The funny thing is that I took a cake to our pediatricians office as a thank you and the doctor personally thanked me for bringing in such a delicious cake! He said, 'Wow, it was so good, like a wedding cake!' icon_lol.gif I had to remember that wedding cakes are supposed to taste GOOD, and he was basing it off that.
I recently had to take a break from taking any orders for awhile (just need some off time, make the things *I* want to make for a change!!) and everyone was upset! I get most of my orders through hubby's work, like you, someone had a piece of my cake and just HAD to order something!




That's neat!!!! I do think alot of people at weddings do expect the cake to taste bad...although nowadays people are beginning to realize that if they are going to spend hundreds of dollars on cake, they need to taste around and find something they like!

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higginspeg Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 5:11am
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The cake was cute, I love pink! Anyway, i love Duff too and I would have thought the cakes would have been to die for considering his training. I'm disappointed that they didn't taste good. My youngest son is going to the Culinary School in Austin next fall for a baker's certificate. He's very excited about it and wants to do what Duff does. I'll have to tell him about the cake though. He doesn't want to go into business with me, no he'd rather compete against me, but we would be in two separate towns separated by 2 hours of miles and school rivalry!

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amazinggracecakedesigns Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 5:29am
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I always thought that you needed a cake that tastes as good as it looks. I take samples to places and that is how I started my business off. Just recently, I took some samples to some of our government offices that I had not thought about taking samples to. Within 2 hours after I took that sample, I received 2 orders. I want my business to be know for taste as well as looks and, so far, I have managed to pull that off. I love buttercream and that is what we do the most of. Perfection takes a lot more than just looks!! icon_biggrin.gif

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-K8memphis Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 10:05am
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The cake was cute, I love pink! Anyway, i love Duff too and I would have thought the cakes would have been to die for considering his training. I'm disappointed that they didn't taste good. My youngest son is going to the Culinary School in Austin next fall for a baker's certificate. He's very excited about it and wants to do what Duff does. I'll have to tell him about the cake though. He doesn't want to go into business with me, no he'd rather compete against me, but we would be in two separate towns separated by 2 hours of miles and school rivalry!




Hey cool--my boy graduated from there a few years ago. He's actually a very accomplished savory chef but an opening for pastry chef came up where he works so he took it. So he's 24 and is pastry chef at a two Michelin star place in California. His parents could not be more proud.

I tell yah, the Cordon Bleu thing is an expensive brand name. I hope your boy has some good scholarships mine did not. I understand the idea about going to the best school but honestly it's a passion driven industry. The diploma is nice but honestly means little. You come out of school able to make the same wage as somone who walks in off the street and is driven to cook/bake.

The whole thing about schooling is to get out and stage (stagh not stage) where you work for someone and learn all their stuff. He's got it made withyou and doesn't know it.

That school is crushingly expensive. icon_biggrin.gif

My boy was in Brownwen Weber's last class she taught there before she got her shop--but he wasn't in the pastry program per se--just got the 6 weeks of pastry.

I wish him all the best.

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Mike1394 Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 10:21am
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Baking a cake is a very easy thing to do. Just like a loaf of bread. Now where it gets tricky is making them taste good. LOLOL

Mike

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AnnieCahill Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 11:05am
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That's funny! I posted that same link a few days ago in the Ace of Cakes Isn't that Great thread.

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indydebi Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 12:57pm
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It always surprises me as baking a cake seems like something everyone can do, it is the decorating that is hard.

Kristin



That's what I think, too! I can't for the life of me figure out why people are surprised when (wedding) cakes taste good! How in the world do these places who are making all of these crappy cakes stay in business if the only thing they are selling are crappy cakes? icon_confused.gif

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foxymomma521 Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 1:25pm
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That lady actually is a member of CC and posted about that cake here too... It's surprising that people keep buying them if they don't taste great. I guess using a famous bakery is more important than taste?

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higginspeg Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 3:47pm
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Hey cool--my boy graduated from there a few years ago. He's actually a very accomplished savory chef but an opening for pastry chef came up where he works so he took it. So he's 24 and is pastry chef at a two Michelin star place in California. His parents could not be more proud.

I tell yah, the Cordon Bleu thing is an expensive brand name. I hope your boy has some good scholarships mine did not. I understand the idea about going to the best school but honestly it's a passion driven industry. The diploma is nice but honestly means little. You come out of school able to make the same wage as somone who walks in off the street and is driven to cook/bake.

The whole thing about schooling is to get out and stage (stagh not stage) where you work for someone and learn all their stuff. He's got it made with you and doesn't know it.

That school is crushingly expensive. icon_biggrin.gif

My boy was in Brownwen Weber's last class she taught there before she got her shop--but he wasn't in the pastry program per se--just got the 6 weeks of pastry.

I wish him all the best.[/quote]

I had looked into the school for myself. We live in CS and I would have had to live at my in-law's house for the school week and come home to my hubby on the weekends. The expense is what kept me from doing it. My youngest is 20 and my oldest is 24 (now in boot camp for the National Guard). After they left home, I wanted to do something that was about me. Culinary school wasn't it, apparently. At 44 I have my own way of doing things! laughing. I really wanted the Pastry Certificate, but again, the expense, time away from home and I'd have to work as well as go to school to support the house I didn't live in all week! laughing. Fortunately, my job is portable somewhat. laughing.

He knows it's expensive and HE has to pay for it. I don't know if he will get any financial aid or scholarships, but I think he thinks he is going to step out of school in a year and open a shop. Not likely! laughing. He'll have to work for someone else, but hopefully Austin is a good area to do that. In the meantime, I'm having to learn on my own all the things necessary to open shop in Texas - UGH, and I can only "practice" making cakes in the meantime. I'm already $2500 vested since taking the four Wilton classes in my area earlier this year, but I keep my fingers crossed that things will fall into place, like they always do, when it's tme.

I do agree there is a lot of natural talent involved with making cakes. He is a fairly good artist and I told him, you could go work on a cruise ship or at a fancy hotel somewhere! laughing.

I'm glad your son fell into something. I hope my youngest gets it figured out soon too!

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-K8memphis Posted 15 Nov 2008 , 4:31pm
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I'm glad your son fell into something. I hope my youngest gets it figured out soon too!




I guess I made it sound like he fell into this job and I don't think you meant it that way but since we're talking about our kids I gotta say -- it's a long arduous thorny definte career path. Nobody falls into a menial job much less a premium job at a Michelin starred resort. One might sell a sibling for such a position but you gotta not only have the goods you gotta pay your dues which are ginormously ginormous.

In other words his executive chef feels not only are those two Michelin stars safe with him but they can get the third one too. There will be joy in the camp!

His last two jobs were in similar fine dining places and the last one he worked 14 hour days 6 days a week or more. Now he's got people working for him. That previous place should have made him a sous like they promised. Whatever.

But anyway I hope you get to get some cool classes--could you get to Bronwen's in Dallas or Houston? Is Earlene still teaching classes?

And to try to be on topic a bit--I'm grieved that Charm City's getting such bad reviews on taste. Hope that gets resolved and the good news gets as broadcast out as this is.

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JenniferMI Posted 16 Nov 2008 , 2:14pm
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This was interesting.....

I had to laugh when the one gal said to get a smooth finish on fondant, you have to put a thin coat of icing. I don't think so! I put a normal layer of icing under my choc. fondant, don't have any issues with lumps and bumps. Personally, I think people like a creamy layer of icing on cake, I know I do.

It's always fascinating to hear how others do things.......

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superstar Posted 18 Nov 2008 , 11:02pm
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I believe that cakes should taste as good as they look or better. I so often hear surprise that the cake not only looks good, but tastes good, I do a customer follow up to find out if everything was as expected. I enjoy watching Duff & Co. & have always wondered how the cakes tatse, that was very interesting.

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cakebaker1978 Posted 19 Nov 2008 , 6:14am
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I was soooooooo curious about the taste myself!! I mean the cakes are unbelievable but can they have it all???!!! lol. Good to know! But I am still a fan of the show!!!!! icon_biggrin.gif

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plbennett_8 Posted 19 Nov 2008 , 6:20am
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Geez... Sure wish my cakes tasted so aweful that people would be happy to pay $500.00 each for them...lol icon_wink.gif I think that the Ace of Cakes crew has helped the cake industry. Cakes are now "cool" in the eyes of a lot of people that really never took the time to think about them much... They do some incredible artistic work, and I would love to take a couple classes with some of them.

My 2 cents,
Pat B.

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-K8memphis Posted 19 Nov 2008 , 11:14am
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I think they just had a couple of bloopers that got too much attention.
I think 99.9% of their stuff is great.

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Susie53 Posted 19 Nov 2008 , 12:08pm
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I believe Duff gets $1000.00 minimum on his cakes now.

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springlakecake Posted 19 Nov 2008 , 4:32pm
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I have read other really good reviews of their cakes. I find it hard to believe they ever would have gotten where they are if they made crappy tasting cakes. I would love to taste myself though!!

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BCo Posted 19 Nov 2008 , 8:29pm
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Well Merissa - I am the one who got the cake in the mentioned post and I will tell you from my experience that it did NOT taste great at all! It was a big cake and I had a ton left over and I even took it into my work the next day and no one would eat it after they tasted it! It sat there for days and I threw it away (and those people will eat anything). I currently have a new job and a man that works here bought a cake for his wife's 50th bday and they went for a tasting (guessing it was a huge cake so therefore they were allowed a tasting) - I believe I mentioned this in the other thread/post also, and he said that the cake they tasted at the shop was good but the cake they received for the birthday was horrible!! He said his wife was a huge fan and she was extremely dissapointed as were the rest of the guests! He said the cake looked amazing but tasted really bad!

So I guess the only way for you to know if it's true or not is to taste one yourself! I did and my opinion is that it's not worth the NOW $1000 minimum -unless you just want to say you had a Charm City Cake made for you I wouldn't buy another one at all.

I've spoken to other people who live in the area too (I'm in the Baltimore area) and have heard the same response....so I guess tasting is believing!

Brandie

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springlakecake Posted 20 Nov 2008 , 3:14pm
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oh it's not that I don't believe you. In fact I don't know whether or not I would like it either. (I am kind of a doctored cake mix girl myself!) I just wonder if maybe some cake flavors are better than others, or if you perhaps got a "bad" cake (we all have our days!), or if it could be a matter of personal taste. Like I said, I've heard both good and bad reviews. It just seems like some people can't wait to knock down success. (I am not calling out anyone in particular, but similar threads go around all the time!)

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KHalstead Posted 20 Nov 2008 , 4:24pm
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am I the only one that noticed that the fondant layer is actually thicker than the filling layers?? That's crazy!! I'm so sad it didn't taste good......with all those cool flavors I'd think they have something like chocolate with cherries down pat!!! Maybe they SHOULD start freezing their cakes, I think it makes them more moist!

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julzs71 Posted 20 Nov 2008 , 9:02pm
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Brandie, are you a scratch or a mix girl?

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tracycakes Posted 20 Nov 2008 , 10:50pm
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A couple of weeks ago, I did a baby shower cake for a friend and alot of people were there that I didn't know very well. My hubby heard people talking that they were so surprised that the cake was cute (Bailey shower cake in my pix) and TASTED good too! I was thrilled of course but sad that people have the impression that if it looks good, it won't taste good. thumbsdown.gif IT'S A CAKE!!! If it doesn't taste good, why have it at all? icon_confused.gif

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