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post #76 of 222
I'm PMS'ing too.. icon_lol.gif

Please try to take everything with a heafty grain of salt.. and while your at it could you please throw in the glass and the margarita that go with it?? icon_lol.gif

On second thought.. screw the glass.. I'll just take the pitcher. icon_wink.gificon_lol.gif
post #77 of 222
I feel like a few of you are like "Well if EYE had to do it, then YOUUUU have to do it too, or its not FAIRRRRR...."

The information is great. To say "These are your state's laws" thats great! But then to whine "That's not fair to those of us who are legal" is making it personal.

Here's how I did it...I didn't have family who lives local....I didn't have alot of friends who wanted to eat cake....so I laid low (on the advice of a prominent baker, actually!!!!) and spread the word....until I knew I could have enough business to get legal.

In PA we are lucky, we only answer to the Dept of Agriculture as far as baking/decorating. The guy was so nice, he wasn't even worried about me too much. As a matter of fact, he saw my website, and my cakes, and didn't even ask "Hey did you do this stuff unlicensed?" Yeah right. He told me stories...scary ones...they have alot of bigger fish to fry. At least here in PA. I'm not worried about it...I'm not worried about those trying to build a little reputation before getting licensed, and I'm not worried about turning anyone in either! As a matter of fact, if I can't do a cake, I refer it out! There's plenty of customers to go around. Why take things so personally?

Granted, some states may be more strict, and the warnings should be heeded....I'm just saying I see alot of personal "offense" here...its past just giving information, but I see "not fair" attitudes, or "I spent money, YOU can spend money" stuff...and that's where the offense is coming in.

If you truly have pure, helpful motives, lay out the state laws or post a link and put down how you did it, and be done. Don't go into how you hate unlicensed competition or how unfair it is to you. Nobody on this board is personally threatening your business or taking your cakes so...

Its ok. Everybody breathe. LOL.
post #78 of 222
I guess it doesn't much matter if I get offended by the I make a cake I'll start a biz questions then? Actually I'm quite jealous of PA, and OH to name a few that do allow bakeries fairly easy in home. LOLOL


Mike

PS I had to waste approx 6 mths of capital, and get my Senator's office involved before I could even get an honest answer to, if I could even put one in my house. So yeah sometimes I get offended also.
post #79 of 222
Kitagrl.. I hope you aren't referring to me, because the only reason I put in how I went about getting licensed is so that people could see that it wasn't something hard to do for me so that maybe they would believe that I did it before going public since it was stated that someone didn't buy it. And also.. maybe someone from NH is reading and thinking it is going to be hard to get legal and reading that it was really easy for me might give them a sigh of relief.

There are too many personal feelings in this on both sides now and this has gone past being productive. I am officially done with this post.. I just wanted to clarify.
post #80 of 222
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Originally Posted by jkalman



No one here would ever turn someone in.. at least I would hope not.



Unfortunately, this isn't true. Anyone remember John and Maria? I had a member PM me and tell me they turned them in to the HD.
post #81 of 222
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Originally Posted by Mike1394

Actually I'm quite jealous of PA, and OH to name a few that do allow bakeries fairly easy in home. LOLOL

Mike


I've just been skimming this thread. The only cakes I have made are for my immediate family. I don't plan to make or sell cakes to anyone outside of extended family (if even that ever happens), but just for curiosity's sake, where can I find info on Ohio's laws regarding selling cakes?
post #82 of 222
I know a caterer whose hobby it is to turn illegal operations in. He finds people who are catering without a license by word of mouth, then turns them in to the health department. In my state the person who turns someone in gets a percentage of the fines and back taxes that are collected when they collect all the fines, and he told me that he makes a good bit of money by turning people in.

I think that Loriemoms was one of the only people in this whole thread who pointed out that if you're doing any kind of illegal selling of anything, (take cake out if it for the purpose of this example!) you're not paying income taxes on that income. That's something that the IRS doesn't take lightly, and the do collect their back taxes when they find you...
post #83 of 222
AmeliaBedelia (I loved those books as a kid):

My coworker and fellow caker recently asked me about Ohio because she has a friend who lives there. I went to www.ohio.gov and searched on cottage foods, which brought me to this page in the Department of Agriculture. Looks like you are fortunate to live there since Ohio does allow you to bake cakes in your home, with guidelines and restrictions, of course.

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post #84 of 222
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Originally Posted by costumeczar

I know a caterer whose hobby it is to turn illegal operations in. He finds people who are catering without a license by word of mouth, then turns them in to the health department. In my state the person who turns someone in gets a percentage of the fines and back taxes that are collected when they collect all the fines, and he told me that he makes a good bit of money by turning people in.

I think that Loriemoms was one of the only people in this whole thread who pointed out that if you're doing any kind of illegal selling of anything, (take cake out if it for the purpose of this example!) you're not paying income taxes on that income. That's something that the IRS doesn't take lightly, and the do collect their back taxes when they find you...



That's how I knew it was time to get my license...when I felt I was starting to actually pull a profit. Before, any money I made was spent right back buying supplies and equipment. No taxable profit there. Actually this year, my first licensed year, I've done better than ever before but still may not have enough "profit" to tax...maybe just a little.

That's my only point here and I'm sorry if I'm coming across mean or snotty...its just that most of the time the "newbies" selling cakes are not pulling a taxable profit! I mean yeah, if they are pulling in several thousand a year its time to look into the licensing and all but most of them are not.

And I am extremely irritated that there are actually people who make money by getting other people in trouble. I barely have enough time to juggle my own life, to say nothing of somebody else's. If the Dept of Health really truly wants to "get" people, they should hire someone in their own office to do it...not pay "spies". Ya know?

Oh well. icon_smile.gif

Sorry if I've made anyone upset....I just know its tough to feel "ganged up on" and I just wanted to stick up for the newbies a bit here... knowing that they will get licensed as soon as they are able....and some that cannot in their state...if they are willing to take the risk of selling via word of mouth, that is their decision to make and that decision is really none of my business.
post #85 of 222
I feel the same way Suzy.. if someone wants to fly under the radar it's not for me to say anything about them personally as a human being.. but I like to spread the information. I try to keep it impersonal.. and usually I can do that.

I also find it appalling to think that people make money for turning others in. I wouldn't ever even think to turn someone in. I have WAY too much going on here to even think about it.

Just know that I am not upset.. in anyway.
post #86 of 222
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Originally Posted by Kim_in_CajunCountry

AmeliaBedelia (I loved those books as a kid):

My coworker and fellow caker recently asked me about Ohio because she has a friend who lives there. I went to www.ohio.gov and searched on cottage foods, which brought me to this page in the Department of Agriculture. Looks like you are fortunate to live there since Ohio does allow you to bake cakes in your home, with guidelines and restrictions, of course.

Good luck!


Thank you!
post #87 of 222
Actually, I did turn someone in last year.
post #88 of 222
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Originally Posted by Cake_Princess

Please raise your hand if you started off selling cakes before you became "legal". Be honest now. This is interesting.




**raises hand**
post #89 of 222
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Originally Posted by jammjenks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cake_Princess

Please raise your hand if you started off selling cakes before you became "legal". Be honest now. This is interesting.




**raises hand**



Ditto.
post #90 of 222
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Originally Posted by indydebi

Quote:
Originally Posted by jammjenks

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cake_Princess

Please raise your hand if you started off selling cakes before you became "legal". Be honest now. This is interesting.




**raises hand**



Ditto.




Me too...
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