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post #1 of 29
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Melissablacks' post got me thinking. What is it with people expecting free cakes? If i volunteer that's one thing. But lately at work it's kind of expected that i make the cakes b/c they're so much better than the grocery store next door. Well, that's b/c they're torted & filled & from scratch! Years ago, we used to chip in each birthday and buy $30 8" single layer, ganache-coated cake from an upscale bakery. Then after they closed, we had to get the $10 model from the grocery store next door.
I probably would refuse the money as I like to make cakes and I try out new things on them, but the offer would be nice. My cost is more than $10. I was even on vacation last week, missing a birthday, and came home to a voicemail saying the birthday boy was postponing his birthday so he could have one of my "signature" cakes. Flattering? Yes very! It's a good thing i like the guy! LOL (He's the one I have to make a "gross" cake for.)
Sorry for venting. Just wondered if anyone else had the same problem. I guess it's good practice.
post #2 of 29
I am starting to have the same problem, but it is from family members. Aunts, Uncles, cousins, In-Laws,-everyone- seems to think we'll just get Crystal to do them and they don't offer anything. Like everything is just free. I know I should have put my foot down on the first couple b/c now it is going to be harder. But the last one I did, I just said to the person "here is you present" and handed them their cake. We'll see now. My Aunt's party is on the 28th of this month, so we'll see if I get stuck doing another free cake.
Sorry for no advice.
Crystal
post #3 of 29
AAHHGGG!!!!!!! Same here.. family members don't understand, even though they buy the ingredients I should at least get a few bucks for my time.. I did the same thing, showed up at the party with the cake and no gift.. LOL sometimes I feel like a cheap o deapo icon_confused.gif (not a real word) with no gift. But dang it I was busy making a free cake that I didn't have time go buy a gift. icon_razz.gif After adding up all my free ones this weekend alone. I lost out $70.00 doing them for free.. I could just kick myself, with school starting and all I could have used that towards school clothes.. I'm so mad at myself. (sigh) I am starting to get real irritated with the whole " their family members be nice " concept.. I'm thinking real hard about being nice and saying, " Oh no! My oven broke ! ". That is a nice way of saying no and not being rude.. tapedshut.gif (little lies never hurt anyone!)
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post #4 of 29
Brainsbaker...I love your Nice theory...I'm going to have to use that one...When I don't want to bake...my oven is broke.
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post #5 of 29
Oooo My I totally Understand,, If you want to give a Cake Away, its Your Choice. & shouldnt be expected. I feel If you Make a cake and take the time and effort to put your special touch to it,,& You Give it as a Gift, You should Never ever feel like a Cheepo oo Deepoo.

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post #6 of 29
It just shows you, it is the difference in people.
When I was working outside the home, I used to make birthday cakes for everyone in the office and also for their children's special celebrations. I refused to take money for them, but you know, those folks always offered to pay. Thinking back, I know that if they had just taken it for granted, I would have felt like you do. But because they offered to pay, it made me feel that they appreciated the effort.
I don't have family members that expect free cakes, so I guess I am lucky. I do have a few customers that expect special treatment when it comes to their cake orders and prices. I find that puts me off a bit, especially when they ask for something really complicated at Costco prices.
If you are depending on the income from cakes, you really shouldn't have any qualms in letting these people know. You have back-to school clothes to buy or you need to pay hydro and ingredients, you need pay for your time, you need to replenish items that have had a lot of wear and tear.
One trick I used for one of these customers that always wants a bargain, was to attach an itemized costs list along with the time it took to make the cake, broken down into details. Haha, she is still looking for bargains and now comments that I am likely making absolutely nothing on her cake orders, but at least she knows, haha!
You have to think of yourself as any other type of business person. If you were a mechanic, you would be charging parts and a set labour rate, you would have to. If you were a unionized employee, you would get into trouble not doing so. So tell these folks that the folks down at CakeCentral Union, would revoke your union membership! Without your membership, you wouldn't be able to afford to fix your broken oven, haha!
Hugs Squirrelly
post #7 of 29
I have the same problem, only I do myself in because I do them for free and can't bring myself to ask for money. icon_redface.gif I feel somehow cheap or chintzy if I tell them that it costs... icon_rolleyes.gif I'm such a dweeb when it comes to this! We need to figure this out...grow a backbone...something! icon_wink.gif
post #8 of 29
I know why we do it for free... because we fear rejection. Case in point my husband was always harrassing for the time I spent doing a cake and making $2.00 per hour on it. Then I got brave and had a friend pay a lot of money for a baby shower cake. Guess what happened no more cake orders from them and all of the people they know. So my cake career is derailed now.
post #9 of 29
I've always maintained my slogan:

MY BUSINESS DOES NOT RUN ON YOUR GOOD CREDIT,NEITHER DOES YOUR"GOOD" NAME.

I really dislike the folks who think they "know" you and want to get a " deal"
What are we.. Monty Hall? is this a game show?
we have to use resources gas,electricity human energy and effort and our brains to come up with ideas.
I'd like to see them pull the expected free cake off at Costco or Sams or any other bakery for that matter
As for getting over that hurdle, I like the" my oven's broke" concept
You know what I had to do to a relative recently ..she wanted this really time consuming cake done that requires a lot of fruit and liquer,a cake like that is VERY costly
I said
Hey if you buy me the following list of ingredients I'll do your cake because those ingredients for the cake you want are so hard to find in my local grocery store.
And guys I'm telling you she thought twice about getting me to do a cake for her all off a sudden she called back and said she changed her mind that her husband was going to have some of his relatives do the cake. I thought better them than me.

Lemon.
post #10 of 29
I really like the CAKE CENTRAL UNION CARD idea-we should make those up and show them with a list of rules/regulations---no freebies unless we volunteer them for a gift or something like a raffle, etc., that would show them!!! It is really hard sometimes when you feel you really want to make the cake but are always put upon to do so-taken for granted that you have nothing better to do or that your time isn't worth anything-"it's nothing for someone like you to do.." routine..sorry folks-flattery don't pay the bills!! I've turned down last minute orders with-I'm sorry-we have plans with out of town guests, don't answer the phone when I have that "feeling" from someone I know is good at last minute orders, etc. Caller ID is a wonderful thing..it's funny how when you start to charge-no matter how minimal the fee-people don't come to you-how rude of them to do that to you...if it's good enough to eat then it's good enough to pay for otherwise its shoplifting!!!
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post #11 of 29
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Originally Posted by SquirrellyCakes

So tell these folks that the folks down at CakeCentral Union, would revoke your union membership! Without your membership, you wouldn't be able to afford to fix your broken oven, haha!
Hugs Squirrelly




Hey that really sounds like a good idea.. JACKIE!! I have a card that reads " licensed to bit**". I would like a CakeCentral Union Card to add to my wallet!!
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post #12 of 29
I'm really glad that this came up in our forum. Since I've read your posts it's really gotten me thinking and I've definately learned something from this!!! I will not be taken for granted. I'm going to set the record straight right from the beginning that way later on I won't run into any complications!! I mean it's one thing if you offer but it's a whole different story when it's expected!!!


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post #13 of 29
Sometimes...even the cake isn't enough!!! I made my sister a cake for her birthday. I told her it would be her gift. So I am making this cake for her (she was at my home while I was making it) She tells me....you better be using real whip cream....and you are going to put pink on my cake...you know I just love pink. icon_mad.gif I was really starting to get upset because I had showed her the exact cake I was doing earlier that week and she never mentioned PINK!!!!

So...the next day (her birthday) I come over with the cake....having added her name in pink. It was suppost to be an all white cake (it is pictured on my photos...white cake with pink name on it) She never even said thank you or it looks great or anything.

Here is the kicker.....Two days later I see this step stool that had been tole painted. It was really pretty. So I commented on it and she says to me..."Thanks, it was the ONLY present I got this year" I was so shocked I was speechless. As I turned to leave the room I said to her "I am so sorry to hear that". I nearly cried as I left the room. After all the time it took to make those little white flowers and make and decorate. I just could not believe my own sister could do that to me. And she is the one who is always ordering cakes from me!! She pays of course!

Anyway...I didn't mean to hyjack your post...just wanted to vent!!!
Mrsfish94- making cakes since 9/04 and loving it!!!
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post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by janethorp

I know why we do it for free... because we fear rejection. Case in point my husband was always harrassing for the time I spent doing a cake and making $2.00 per hour on it. Then I got brave and had a friend pay a lot of money for a baby shower cake. Guess what happened no more cake orders from them and all of the people they know. So my cake career is derailed now.


That is upsetting and I really feel for you. But it sounds to me like you need a new group of friends and customers! I just know there are folks out there who will pay for the kind of amazing quality cakes that you make, you just need to find them.
Tell your hubby that at $2. an hour you are likely making about 6 times the labour costs I usually get, haha!
Seriously, I understand his point of view. I am at a point in time when what I make is not an issue, generally. So I can put myself in a position where I will do a cake for cost or less or even free if there is something I want to try and a customer that is willing to give me free rein.
Your hubby's reaction is much like mine has.
But I have no qualms about charging what I feel something is worth, ok, I lie, charging about half of what something is worth, haha!
The thing is, there are customers out there that will pay you what a custom cake is worth, you just need to find them and sometimes finding them costs!
But don't give up trying, I know you will find them! In the meantime choose to make cakes for those that will appreciate them so that you can continue doing what you like to do!
Hugs Squirrelly
post #15 of 29
mrsfish94
Sorry to hear your story.. I too made my sister a pink guess purse for her birthday.. (its in my photos).. I was the one dissappointed because it was suppose to be a victoria secret bag.. LOL it started forming round, so I thought dang it! I looked on the internet for ideas and found a purse...and tada I made a purse. She loved it, I think I would have slapped her if she gave me lip icon_mad.gif .. LOL that's just me..
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