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post #16 of 105
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Originally Posted by sltoklahoma

I think the key to air is making alot of icing at once so that your beater is covered, as not to let air in. that is one of the things sharon talks about in her video.



Yes, I know about that too. The crazy thing is...whenever I fill my mixer bowl - that's when I get the MOST air bubbles!! icon_confused.gif If I make just one recipe, or even halve a recipe - it will come out with less air bubbles!!! Not good when I have to make a ton of icing!! icon_sad.gif
post #17 of 105
I had the same problem, until I learned sugar shack's method. Watch her vidoe on you tube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4ibkH0V_4

The key is to fill up you mixer bowl to the top of the paddle and let it mix for a long time. Don't leave even the smallest gap. If you have filled up you will not get air bubbles. No bubble will make it so much easier to smooth.

Just keep trying, you will get the hang of it.

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post #18 of 105
Hey everyone! I have taken the basic Wilton recipe and made some changes in making it my own but how I get my icing to smooth is after I ice my cake, I put the cake in the freezer for approx. 5 - 10 min & then I use the Viva towel method to smooth my cake. I have smooth icing everytime, so far. My pics have some of my cakes that have the smooth buttercream icing on them. Good luck!! thumbs_up.gif
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post #19 of 105
My icing sucks also. I tried everything possible and I hate it. I make icing last week and it was smooth for a minute then I called my self mixing a little more and it was full of air bubbles. So next time I make it I'm going to under mix it and see what happens. I put 1 cup of hi ratio shortning, 1 cup of butter, 2 lbs of powdered sugar and I used liquid coffee creamer. It tasted great.
post #20 of 105
Before giving up would you like to take mine for a spin? Here's my recipe:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tLcCbN2I4xI
And here's how I smooth:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iqvL4zhVbE8

I have a few other videos on there too, in case you're interested, like how to pipe roses right on the cake! icon_biggrin.gif
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post #21 of 105
I can help you with this. I used to be in your boat...it took me many months and many rough cakes to get it right!

Just use the basic wilton recipe, no need for fancy additions (unless you want them). Do not add crazy amounts of liquid to the icing. Don't add too little either, of course, it does have to spread. Frost your cake. If your kitchen is humid, place a fan in front of the cake and blast at cake for a good 5 min, turn the cake to get the other side a good dose. THIS IS KEY IF HUMID, OTHERWISE YOUR FROSTING WILL TAKE HOURS TO CRUST!! Do a "crust test" by lightly touching the icing and see if it sticks to your finger. If you smoosh it with no sticking, you are ready for the Viva paper towel!

Melvira's method is fancy and professional, but I prefer the paper towel because it's cheaper and easier. Your frosting has to be pretty level to begin with for melvira's method to work. With the paper towel, you can have dips and valleys all over that sucker and no harm when smoothing.

Use your hand over the paper towel when smoothing, not the fondant smoother. You dont have any real sense of pressure when using the fondant smoother and you're more likely to over-smoosh and have issues. I use the ends of 3 fingers when smoothing for absolute pressure control.

This WILL work, guaranteed. When it is not humid the process is exactly the same, just skip the fan. Refridgerate your cake to speed up crusting is not recommended, because you can easily over-do it. Over-crusting causes permanent wrinkles when the cake is smoothed.
post #22 of 105
I've had many problems with BC myself. I've tried so many recipes. My BC skills have greatly improved after watching Sugarshack's video. I also use her recipe with a few changes in flavorings. The key is to get the BC all the way to the top of the springs of the mixer (as mentioned before) so there's no air bubbles. I also use the icing tip to ice the cake b/c it's much quicker & I can get it more even. High-ratio shortening also makes a big difference.
post #23 of 105
hey ladies!

I just found this thread.

Airy icing is not acceptable! icon_mad.gif Please let me help you figure it out. Those of you who are getting airy icing, please do this:

type here the size of your mixer bowl in quarts....
and then the exact ingredients ( brands too) in the exact amounts and then describe exaclty what you do each step in the process....

and I will try to help.


I truly believe getting the right volume for your mixer is the key to smooth icing.

Do not give up gals! thumbs_up.gif

I struggled a LONG time before I beat the BC beast!

Be strong peeps!

Sharon

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post #24 of 105
I used to use the viva paper towel to get my cake smooth until I started working at a bakery part time. They use a water bottle.

Ice your cake with buttercream. Get it as smooth as possible, then spray it with water using a bottle that is made for kitchen use (I bought mine at pampered chef). Take your offset spatuala going around the cake. This water on the icing makes it glide. Do not spray too much or it makes a mess. Pratice makes it easier.

You cakes will be super smooth thumbs_up.gif
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post #25 of 105
I used to use the viva paper towel to get my cake smooth until I started working at a bakery part time. They use a water bottle.

Ice your cake with buttercream. Get it as smooth as possible, then spray it with water using a bottle that is made for kitchen use (I bought mine at pampered chef). Take your offset spatuala going around the cake. This water on the icing makes it glide. Do not spray too much or it makes a mess. Pratice makes it easier.

You cakes will be super smooth thumbs_up.gif
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post #26 of 105
Oh sugarshack I love you so much. I know from watching your youtube video that my problem is due to my icing not coming over the top of my beaters. But, I have a different mixer than you and didn't know how to translate the volumes, recipe, etc...as soon as I figure out how many quarts my mixer has, I'm coming back here for your expert advice. I also have plans to beg for your videos for my birthday in August icon_biggrin.gif Eventually, I too, can get out of buttercream he// icon_evil.gif
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post #27 of 105
I am with you girls, I am very tempted to buy sharons DVD but then I see all the post here about how you all have the same problems I have. I was using Wiltons until the darn thing wouldn't crust up to save my life, but that is Colorado for you also. One minute your dry as heck the next its very humid not like the humid in new orleans though. I wonder sometimes if that is how Sharon gets hers so smooth because she lives in the new orleans where its always humid. icon_confused.gif?? I don't know but keep me posted to some other ideas....
post #28 of 105
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Sharon - you are amazing - I bow down to your power to smooth LOL

Thanks so much for trying to help!

I will tell you what I do (although I bet it would be easier to just fly down there & you can show me in person icon_lol.gif ):

Mixer bowl = 4.5 quart

1/2 cup room temperature unsalted (usually store brand) butter
1/2 cup (usually store brand) shortening with 2g of trans fat in it

I mix these together with the paddle attachment on almost high until smooth (maybe one minute or so)

Add 1 teaspoon of vanilla (usually McCormicks - not imitation)

Mix on almost high until smooth & mixed in (maybe half a minute)

Add 4 cups or 1 lb powdered sugar (I was using Domino's & sifting it because it was so lumpy. I have recently switched to the powdered sugar at WalMart because it's cheaper & seems to be much finer/smoother - I did sift this I think because I'm so used to sifting because of Domino's!)

I add one cup (approximately) at a time & mix until smooth/incorporated and then add another cup, and so on until it's all mixed it. Then take it out and stir it with a rubber spatula.

Ok - now here's the funky part - if I use this exact recipe (with these small amounts), it doesn't fill up my bowl at all BUT the icing usually comes out pretty smooth. IF I double the recipe, the icing doesn't fill the entire bowl, and it has more air bubbles in it then if I didn't double it?! It seems like the more amounts I put into the bowl, the more air bubbles I come out with? Or if I mix it on high, or mix it too long I get tons of air bubbles.

So whaddya think doc? LOL (Ok it's late & I'm getting tired & goofy!)

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post #29 of 105
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OH! I forgot to add. I did order some Sweetex shortening through some company online, and when I made icing with that, omg - I took a bite of the cake and ALL I could taste was shortening! I'm afraid to use that stuff again!! icon_cry.gif
post #30 of 105
After I've frosted it as smooth as I can get it, I run my spatula under hot water & then run it around the cake. The heat from the spatula helps melt the icing smoother.
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