Was It Always Like This?

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BCJean Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 5:13am
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I think we need to start a new forum and call it, Janette and it would be one to go to when you only want to read and not comment.

I was thinking it was funny.

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Janette Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 5:20am
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I could live with that. I think I'm the only one that can appriciate my warped since of humor.

Just adding, I was away for a long time because I don't have a lot of patience with machines and the site was too slow.

Now, it's smoking - I love it.

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kimmypooh79 Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 6:47am
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Also, If my parents had the resources to send me to college I would have gone. Then as an adult there were bills to pay and I couldn't afford it. I thought about starting last year but my husband and I weighed out the options and decided that his masters was more important as he is the bread winner in the family and it will get him a substantial pay raise. Although at this point I don't know what my major would be.....I really only enjoy working with food (except for the clean up). Lucky for me the only bakery that I know of in my town is in the 2 grocery stores that we have. So don't think I am discrediting everybody's degrees. I just don't like the attitude that you have to have one to be a worthy person or business person. I've had to put up with that attitude from my in laws and I'll be danged if I'll listen to it here, too.



Sorry this is going sound harsh. If you wanted to go to college. Why did the parents have to have the resources? Get a job, and do it yourself.

Mike



summernoelle---well put-short but sweet. Thanks.

Mike--I started working when I was 13 (now 2icon_cool.gif b/c my family was lucky to pay the necessary bills. I quit school when I was 16 so that I could work and help my parents out and so I could support myself in terms of food, clothing, extra money, etc., I bought my own car with no help from anyone which got me to/from work. By the time I paid the $200/mo for the car and the $175 a month for ins (even though my record was clean, I was young) there wasn't a lot left over for school. I got my GED and have looked into classes at a community college but my hubby and I can't both go. I have a child to take care of and it makes the most sense at least for now for him to get his masters and work while I take care of the house and our daughter. I only stopped working a year ago b/c we had to move to another town for his job where there aren't many jobs available and we can't afford child care costs. When he is finished then I will look again. So FYI...I've been doing for myself since I was 13. Yes I am upset by your comment b/c you have no idea of my past or current situation and shouldn't make comments on circumstances you know nothing about.



Immy don't be upset. You are a rare story. I know when I read his comment the first thing that came to my mind was that our Daughter always felt we owed her a college education.l We did what we could, I would say 1/2 way. But till to this day she thinks she should have had a free ride via her parents. It was bad enough we went into our 401(k) to help her. Don't even get me started on her Wedding.

My son on the other hand worked very hard to put himself through college. And, has thanked us a million times over for everthing we did.

He went so far as to send us to Las Vagas for a week fully paid with extras. Not neccessary by no means but it still chokes me up thinking about it.

I guess what I'm saying is some kids you can never give/do enough for and some want to stand on their own two feet. You should be proud that you stood on your own.




Thank you Janette I appreciate your support. I know what you mean. My husband and I paid for our wedding and honeymoon. I know that traditionally the brides parents pay for the wedding but 1) my parents couldn't afford it 2) I personally think if you're old enough to get married then you're old enough to pay for it (no offense intended) . I also think that it makes us appreciate things more when we work for them. It has been hard and I would like to see my daughter have a more comfortable life so i will encourage her to go to college. We have decided that we will help our children with school or wedding expenses IF we can. But, we would not pay for the whole
shebang more like a % of it as you did. My husband paid for his degree by working through the summer, he was lucky that he was able to get a large discount as his dad is a professor at the university he attended.
It was so sweet of your son to do that for you. I only wish I could do the same for my parents....someday maybe. I don't care that they couldn't help me b/c it's enough knowing that if they could have they would have in a heartbeat. Thank you again.

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Mike1394 Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 9:12am
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Kimmy, sorry you found what I said offensive. Congrats on getting your GED. I know of "kids" right now that I go to school with that work three jobs. Combined with school they are putting in about 120 hours of work. There is always a way. Hopefully you will find the time to go. I wish you the best.

Mike

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PieceofCakeAZ Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 9:21am
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PieceofCakeAZ,
Do you have any info on how many of these new ones are still in business a year later? We have very few private bakeries here, I thought that was a thing of the past.




Most of the new companies that pop up aren't actually licensed so there isn't a real way to tell (ie I can't search the county web site and find out that they are gone), I usually find out by a bride calling saying that their baker bailed on their weddiing cake and they need help. And technically many aren't "out of business", the company will still exist, even if the pricipals seek employment elsewhere.

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PieceofCakeAZ Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 9:27am
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And there is a difference between those who âhave no idea what itâs all aboutâ â¦â¦. and those who have no idea and they KNOW they have no idea â¦. so thatâs why theyâre asking.

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I think indydebi probably said it best. What a great mediator she is! It's the difference between someone really wanting to learn and someone wanting to just have everything dropped in their lap. I think OP came across too harsh, but everything she said made sense. As a newbie who started out making bday cakes for the fam, I was really interested to hear her point of view. I've been saying for months that I would love to walk into my local cake shop and offer myself up as free labor. I'm glad now that I never did. I wouldn't have been one of the goofballs who expected to just learn for free though, I would have expected to wash dishes, bake the cakes, work the register, take phone orders...and do all the un-fun stuff, just to catch a trick here and there and maybe work my way up to learning some real stuff. Piece of Cake, I'm in Gilbert. You looking for any slaves? icon_biggrin.gif


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bizatchgirl- Hello! We aren't looking fior slaves just yet... but hopefully not to far into the future!! icon_biggrin.gif

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Sugar_Plum_Fairy Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 3:06pm
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Jannette, I just wanted to tell you that if you wanted to, keep going. By all means, don't stop on our account. I don't know about anyone else, but I enjoy a good sililoquy now and then. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

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kimmypooh79 Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 6:48pm
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Mike--I started working when I was 13 (now 2icon_cool.gif b/c my family was lucky to pay the necessary bills. I quit school when I was 16 so that I could work and help my parents out and so I could support myself in terms of food, clothing, extra money, etc., I bought my own car with no help from anyone which got me to/from work. By the time I paid the $200/mo for the car and the $175 a month for ins (even though my record was clean, I was young) there wasn't a lot left over for school. I got my GED and have looked into classes at a community college but my hubby and I can't both go. I have a child to take care of and it makes the most sense at least for now for him to get his masters and work while I take care of the house and our daughter. I only stopped working a year ago b/c we had to move to another town for his job where there aren't many jobs available and we can't afford child care costs. When he is finished then I will look again. So FYI...I've been doing for myself since I was 13. Yes I am upset by your comment b/c you have no idea of my past or current situation and shouldn't make comments on circumstances you know nothing about.[/quote]

For some reason when I entered the numeric form of my age it put a smiley where an eight is supposed to be so I am twenty-eight not twenty years old.
And Mike I worked, at most, 2 full-time jobs at one time to get by while my husband was still in school and when he was job hunting.
Though you may know some "kids" that did what they did while going to school it doesn't mean that everybody can do what they did. It just depends on each individual person and situation. I'm not going to go any further with this discussion b/c it got way off the subject and onto something else. I'll just write it off as you don't know me or my circumstances so anything that you say about the matter is based on your own incorrect assumptions.
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Mike1394 Posted 3 Jul 2008 , 8:10pm
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Mike--I started working when I was 13 (now 2icon_cool.gif b/c my family was lucky to pay the necessary bills. I quit school when I was 16 so that I could work and help my parents out and so I could support myself in terms of food, clothing, extra money, etc., I bought my own car with no help from anyone which got me to/from work. By the time I paid the $200/mo for the car and the $175 a month for ins (even though my record was clean, I was young) there wasn't a lot left over for school. I got my GED and have looked into classes at a community college but my hubby and I can't both go. I have a child to take care of and it makes the most sense at least for now for him to get his masters and work while I take care of the house and our daughter. I only stopped working a year ago b/c we had to move to another town for his job where there aren't many jobs available and we can't afford child care costs. When he is finished then I will look again. So FYI...I've been doing for myself since I was 13. Yes I am upset by your comment b/c you have no idea of my past or current situation and shouldn't make comments on circumstances you know nothing about.




For some reason when I entered the numeric form of my age it put a smiley where an eight is supposed to be so I am twenty-eight not twenty years old.
And Mike I worked, at most, 2 full-time jobs at one time to get by while my husband was still in school and when he was job hunting.
Though you may know some "kids" that did what they did while going to school it doesn't mean that everybody can do what they did. It just depends on each individual person and situation. I'm not going to go any further with this discussion b/c it got way off the subject and onto something else. I'll just write it off as you don't know me or my circumstances so anything that you say about the matter is based on your own incorrect assumptions.
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I wish you the best, and hopefully life will soon start to work out for you.

Mike

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melodyscakes Posted 4 Jul 2008 , 6:57pm
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I do not want to add fuel to fire, but wanted to share this with the op and others.
I have this "friend" we go to the same church, but I try to avoid her because of all the drama. anyway, she calls me up and invites herself to work in my bakery so she can see if she would like to decorate cakes for people, for cash out of her apartment. grrrrr
my husband said she sure has some balls.
I will not let someone come and decide ON MY DIME if they want to pursue cake decorating out of her illegal kitchen for cash (cash that I could be making in my legal bakery)

grrr...it takes all kinds



melody

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CakeRN Posted 8 Jul 2008 , 8:57am
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Ok...I know this is off thread but I wanted to comment on some other comments that were later in the thread.....I can tell you from my experience that when I got married ( both times ) we paid for our own wedding. I too went to work at a young age and put my self through college. I did pay for my daughters college but she had to work to pay for her books and her spending money. When she got married I did not pay for her wedding. I figured 48 grand for college was more than enough and she knew that going into it too. I did pay for her dress since that was something I really wanted to do and it was only 600 dollars. I did her cake and we gave them a 1000 dollars as a wedding gift.

You make out of life what you can. YOU DO NOT OWE YOUR KIDS anything but the basics of food,clothing shelter and love...If you do that then they can fend for themselves in life. Spoiled kids want everything RIGHT NOW!!!..... I say NO!

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Janette Posted 8 Jul 2008 , 5:57pm
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CakeRN,

The first Wedding Dress we paid $1,500 and I ended up selling at a garage sale for $50, the wedding had been cancelled.

The second Wedding Dress $5,000, you got it she paid for it.

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kimmypooh79 Posted 8 Jul 2008 , 6:15pm
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I found my dress on clearance and only paid $365. Honestly I wish I'd eloped and just had a reception then I could have taken a nicer honeymoon. My Dh and I still only spent a few thousand since I did everything (not the cake) myself including the flowers. I had a December wedding so the chapel was mostly decorated, what I did buy I made sure to buy things I could recycle. My house gets decorated every year with the same decorations I bought for the wedding.

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loriana Posted 9 Jul 2008 , 6:31pm
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I found my dress on clearance and only paid $365. Honestly I wish I'd eloped and just had a reception then I could have taken a nicer honeymoon. My Dh and I still only spent a few thousand since I did everything (not the cake) myself including the flowers. I had a December wedding so the chapel was mostly decorated, what I did buy I made sure to buy things I could recycle. My house gets decorated every year with the same decorations I bought for the wedding.




Hey just wanted to throw my story in here which is sort of a combination of the other two: I grew up with parents that paid for school, grandparents who paid for college and bought me a car at 16. Because I had everything paid for and didn't have to support myself, I took everything for granted! I slacked off in my classes after a while, changed my major three times and did as I pleased. I wasted so much money, so much. I only realized what I was doing and the kind of person I would become after volunteering at a homeless shelter.

I worked at a rescue mission for women and decided to turn my life around and become a good person. I won't even go into the details of the kind of teenager I was before this. Let's just say I grew up with very liberal parents who didn't keep a tight reign on me. I had no work ethic and no sense of duty to mankind. After volunteering, turning my life around and doing something meaningful, I dropped out of school after about 100 credits and no degree.

I went to work full-time at the rescue mission and eventually interviewed at a larger shelter in California and moved closer to home. After 4 years of working hard and also working on my relationship with my parents, I sent them a card apologizing for all the lousy things I did and my awful behavior. We have been close ever since and I have since had a heart for those in need.

I am now 31, married with a baby and work at a large non-profit hospital. I am proud that I can say that everyday I work to help very sick children, and I want to teach my baby to be a good person as he grows. So... sometimes you start off wrong and it takes a lot of work to become a better person but it will always be a work in progress for all of us. Don't give up hope on kids who start off on the wrong foot as teens. You never know what they may do with their lives icon_rolleyes.gif Thanks for reading! Lisa

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kimmypooh79 Posted 9 Jul 2008 , 8:09pm
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Lisa, that's great that you were able to see that you were taking things for granted. I still know some people that don't know what it's like to have to work for what they have nor do they appreciate it. I'd love to tell you about my husbands family but it's such a long story.

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loriana Posted 11 Jul 2008 , 3:53pm
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I would love to hear your husband's story! Please share if you like icon_smile.gif

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