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post #181 of 246
Jessie.. your post got WAY off topic. Don't read into everything as if it is directed at you personally.

Most of the comments about being honest are directed at the people who suggested to bend the truth and not you personally. Is there anyway you can access bulk mixes? Just put them in lexan container and call it a day? No one is saying that you were or ever planned on lying to your customers. I say be proud of what you do.. be upfront about it.. be confident.. and that will get you customers.
post #182 of 246
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Originally Posted by jessieb578

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If you can't say anything nice don't say it at all.....really. Giving a recipe and then making a nasty comment isn't what this site is about. Sharing and teaching is what makes this place great - condescending attitudes aren't.



I'm sorry it came across that way. It's the truth though. It wasn't meant as nasty.

Mike
post #183 of 246
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jkalman - thanks for clarifying. icon_smile.gif
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post #184 of 246
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Originally Posted by Mike1394

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Originally Posted by jessieb578

Mike icon_smile.gif

If you can't say anything nice don't say it at all.....really. Giving a recipe and then making a nasty comment isn't what this site is about. Sharing and teaching is what makes this place great - condescending attitudes aren't.



I'm sorry it came across that way. It's the truth though. It wasn't meant as nasty.

Mike



Oooh. When I read what Mike wrote, I laughed. I thought he was merely stating how wonderful and fool proof his recipe is, and used humor to do so.

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post #185 of 246
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really?? I didn't see how telling someone that they should fire their head baker is funny.
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post #186 of 246
I guess it is just because I don't have anything invested in this debate so it isn't personal to me in the least. Because of that, I read this thread and see the good points that everyone makes and don't get upset about any of it, except when I thought someone was being purposefully rude. It just didn't come across that way. I get his point though. If there is a tried and true recipe and someone can't make it work, there might be a problem. However, if the problem is simply acquired taste, then whatever about what he said.

I'm sorry if I offended you by saying I wasn't offended! I'm really not taking sides at all. I'm learning lots as I'm reading this thread.
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post #187 of 246
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no, no, not offended at all by what you said...I just didn't see the humor in what he said at all and it wasn't even directed at me. Guess I'm just ready to have my cc buddies back icon_lol.gif I was actually a little shocked at how people came across on here.
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post #188 of 246
Going back to the original question.. i agree that baking from scratch is more expensive.. so when i am asked to bake a cake i tell them from that the cheaper way is to use box cake, but i can do from scratch if they don't mind spending a little more. I leave it up to them.. of course they don't care if it's box or not so they go with the cheaper.
post #189 of 246
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frankieb - really?? that's a great angle to take - and ya know, I was thinking that if people ask me I can have them come down for a taste if they doubt my cakes.
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post #190 of 246
I tell my customers my cake are modified . . .

So I don't come out and say I use box mixes and I am telling the truth because I do add meringue and cinna. and other flavorings when called for...
post #191 of 246
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Originally Posted by jessieb578

really?? I didn't see how telling someone that they should fire their head baker is funny.



Jessie, I'm sorry if you found what I sad offensive, or anyone else for that matter. As a Lead Baker you should know how to combine different ingredients to get the texture, mouthfeel, and taste you desire. IMO if you can't do that then your not a lead Baker. 99% of all baked goods have flour, sugar, eggs, and some sort of fat. It's how you combine them that defines you as a baker.

Maybe I should've explained it better

Mike
post #192 of 246
I have not read the whole tread yet, but here is my bit.
6 years ago I would never bake from a box. Now I prefer to start from it. Unless I make my favorite cake recipes.

So I bake from a Cake Starter and add my own fresh ingredients and that is my story.

Many bakeries do the same thing. So many places and so many of us use filling from bags or jars.

What is the difference.

We still use fresh ingredients and mix it fresh and do the work.

Good Luck.
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post #193 of 246
Such an interesting debate going on here!

But to the OP, I would answer the question directly and if you are worried about losing potential clients, do your best to come up with a good scratch stand-by recipe, be sure to have a price quote ready for it if there is a diff and then give the customers the choice.

Just like so many here, there are plenty of people who like either type it's all a matter of preferences. In my past experience in food service, you can't please everyone! NO WAY, NO HOW! Do what suits you and your biz best and offer the clients a choice.

I have found good recipes for yellow and choc cakes from scratch but I'm still searching for a good white cake recipe, so until I do I use cake mixes that I doctor up. AND I'm proud of it! People love my cakes so if it ain't broke don't fix it! Right?
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post #194 of 246
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k8....wait, cakes release gas?? icon_surprised.gif

Mike - thanks for clarifying,, sometimes it's tough to get a "mood" from typing words.

Craziladi - good point that I can't make everyone happy - plus there's nobody around who does what I do with carved cakes, etc...in fact nobody who bakes cakes besides WalMart and Price Chopper, so they can take it or leave it right??
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post #195 of 246
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Originally Posted by jessieb578

k8....wait, cakes release gas?? icon_surprised.gif

Mike - thanks for clarifying,, sometimes it's tough to get a "mood" from typing words.

Craziladi - good point that I can't make everyone happy - plus there's nobody around who does what I do with carved cakes, etc...in fact nobody who bakes cakes besides WalMart and Price Chopper, so they can take it or leave it right??



Hey we only have about 9 million more posts to catch up with those cuppies. I want to know how can they make cuppies when all they do is type messages? Hehehe icon_biggrin.gif
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