Please don't be so hard. I don't think we know for sure that she knew and stole a spot. She may not know and if she does it will catch up with her. I too don't think pushing the issue will help you it may only make matters worse.

Kindness, understanding and patience goes a long way (and keeps your blood presure down).

She cannot legally donate a cake, unless it is baked in a commercial kitchen.

If she were licensed, the issue would then be first come, first served.

quote: "She cannot legally donate a cake, unless it is baked in a commercial kitchen. "

doesnt that depend on where you live? And does that mean you cannot donate a cake to anyone? Sorry but I'm confused by that as I donate plenty of cakes to my friends, family, neighbors etc So I dont get why you cant donate a cake.

They are right. She can not donate the cake. She doesn't have a food permit. And therefore where we live, she can not cook in a licensed kitchen unless she has a food permit.


Because along with the donated cake the Perk is that she gets a CRAP LOAD of print advertising, which she wants the wedding show told me so.

Sorry Creativecakesbylindsay, I will probably shut down your thread also with my onesidedness.

Trust me gang this is NOT wrong - call the right community entity. It is your responsibility.

If you saw someone speeding down your street where your kids played you would call someone

If you saw someone breaking into your neighbors home you would call someone

If someone was embezzling from your employer you would call someone....

If you saw someone being mugged you would call someone

She is stealing Creativecakesbylindsey's rightfully EARNED business. Yep gang I said rightfully earned because, Creativecakesbylindsay is legal.

So, if miss illegal is really not licensed let the right community entity figure out the paperwork and the courts the law and then let miss illegal pay the penalties for breaking the it! Yep thats what I said, breaking the law.

I dont see an issue here. Black and white.

ok, Not to be mean or anything.. but, Maybe she's not licensed, Maybe she's just starting out and she's just like alot of us... Maybe you're just upset and maybe a little jealous that she's going to be in the spotlight and you're not... I admit I'm not licensed because quite frankly-- I'm not that good... But I make cakes for the fun of it and I donate them... I'm hoping it's not a crime because I too bake at home...

Just my honest opinion.. and not intended to be cruel.

I've decided what to do.

I'm going to phone her.

I'm going to wait to see if the wedding show "kicks" her out.

Then if those things don't follow through, I will then decide if further action is required.

***********All done now********

I agree with tiptop57! It is ridiculous that you be "bumped" out by someone breaking the law! All of this legal/not legal business is insane! If it is illegal to bake out of your home then you shouldn't be doing it! Chances are the promoters of the wedding show will take care of this because if someone were to get sick from her food it could fall back on them. This stinks! You're a bad guy if you do and a bad guy if you don't but please know whatever you decide I am sure is in the best interest of your business and there are people that will stand behind you!

I agree with many of the others - you have gone thru the time and expense of becoming legal, therefore you have earned the right to the spot. And all the advertising!
While you are waiting for the committee to make up its mind, I would make a phone call to the individual who is ultimately responsible for the event. I would inform them that there is a non-licescened person signed up for the show. I would innocently wonder aloud if he/she are concerned about the legal ramifications of having a non-legal vendor participating in their event. In today's sue happy society, they could be party to a lawsuit if some unhappy bride has a problem with this other woman's cake. I am NOT suggesting you sue them if things don't go in your favor.

Good luck!

Lindsay,

Have you thought about maybe contacting the lady and trying to explain that without being lisc. she cannot legally do what she is doing? I know it is not your responsibility to do this but I was just thinking that "if" just possibly she is a good person and really doesn't mean harm she might gracefully back out in exchange for not having every legal agency around down her back. I am not saying to threaten her just let her know and bring it to her attention what could happen.

Maybe it is worth a shot. I have read most of this thread and it is getting pretty heated. I see you getting more and more upset each post as well. I would hate to see you get irritated at peoples opinions here and maybe go after her with full vengance and regret it later.

I agree that she should not be doing this. You have the right to the show, not her. I am not lisc. and I don't bake for profit, but if I did without being lisc. I would not try stepping into something like this.

She probably does know she is not suppose to do this or I would think she would have a table at the bridal fair as well, but just in case why not give her a call and let her know. This way if she backs out you have have your "spotlight" as it has been referred to. You deserve it.

An interesting note on the sue-happy thing...I had a friend who was a long-time vendor at local shows tell me that a lady DID sue her from eating a sample at a bridal fair because she said that she broke a tooth on the woman's carrot cake . Apparently she had a bad tooth, it came out, lawsuit ensued.

Insurance is pretty much a necessity nowadays; I wouldn't have the nerve to sign up for a show if I wasn't legal, just for that reason--too much at risk.

Wow, Homecook that was an awaking story, thanks for sharing.

I checked into insurance and it wasn't too expensive and well worth it.

Does anyone know how you can break a tooth on a Carrott Cake?

Oh cakesbycathy that is too scary and dangerous and as you said not creativecakesbylindsay responsibility to enforce the law let the right legal entity Health Dept, Agricultural Dept, etc. handle that issue. Calling her is confrontational and could have ramifications.

Trust me.......and here is another legal thing - ignorance of the law is not an excuse for breaking the law any first year rookie cop will tell ya that.

Well, I still think that since you don't know all the details of how she got the spot you should just wait and watch. All is revealed in time. You're risking your reputation if you decide to be, um, whiny, about it. I don't mean to be mean. But I think if you're going to be in business you're going to need a much thicker skin. You're going to lose out plenty of times. That's life. Learn from the lesson and move forward. You have worked hard to get where you are. But life is not always fair. That doesn't mean it's always wise to retaliate. While you're busy trying to knock her down, someone else could be plotting to knock you down a notch.

I just think you should let this one go. There's probably something bigger and better for you on the horizon. Keep your head up and move on.

Mickig

I am not license, but I also do not sell cakes. Cakes are only a hobby for me, no business, so I really have no input when it comes to being legal or illegal.. but I can understand how you might feel since you are going by the book and doing everything right. You paid your fees, dues and everything. But if you are 110% sure that she is not legal, what I would do is tell everyone in town !! You got nothing to fear !! You have all the paperwork and all that. You're the one whose got nothing to loose.
We can all make a living, but it is important to do it right and legal. Drug dealers sell drugs for a living, but is what they're doing legal ? NO! does it also mean that we have to be nice to them since probably some of them have small children to feed with the drug money they make ? I don't think so.

Good luck to you. If you get on FoodNetwork someday, maybe mention the whole thing on national television..

I've been following this thread all evening and while your frustration is evident, I wouldn't "turn her in". If she is illegal and it is a problem, then they will figure out what to do. They should be screening the decorators and worrying about the legalities, not you.

And while you have worked very hard, you are not the only one entitled to this moment. That baker is, too. Obviously she is there for a reason.

Angie

This carrot cake didn't even have nuts, so I don't see how it'd be possible unless her tooth was hanging by a thread to start with...

Point is--it pays to get the right ducks in a line, just in case.

Ok, I'll fess up! But, please be nice to me, please.

When I first started decorating cakes I didn't know better and I did a Bridal Show. No one questioned me. There was a legit Baker there and she was really nice to me she didn't see me as a threat, she didn't even say anything about me being there.

Later when I found out, I felt so bad and embarrassed. I didn't get orders but if I did I would have referred them to her because I was wrong.

I know to some I may have committed a "CRIME" and I should be hung but I am truly sorry for my ignorance.

I always say there are people that you meet in life that stay with you for the rest of your life. I remembered this woman's kindness and one nice person wipes out 10 nasty.

Then again if she had came to me with a chip on her shoulder I may have meant her in the parking lot (just kidding). But, I would have been mean back.

There's a difference between being "flamed" and having another perspective that is different from your own. We are not all going to agree with you.

I re-read your post.

This has been an interesting debate (I didn't get my work done).

But, really it's resolved. They said they would ask her if she has a license and if she doesn't she will have to back out and it goes to you. Problem solved.

It's good to vent and we should be here to listen. I would hope you would be there for me.