Square Pans??

Decorating By dodibug Updated 1 Aug 2005 , 8:33pm by CakesByEllen

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dodibug Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 5:54pm
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Just bought a Wilton square pan set at Micheals (40% off-yeah!) but now that I look at them they are somewhat rounded on the corners. I haven't used square pans before. Would I be better off with another set of pans that have sharper corners? What do you guys think? Thanks! icon_biggrin.gif

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traci Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 6:01pm
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Hi. I noticed that also when I bought mine. I did keep them...but I ended up ordering another set of 3 inch deep pans that have very sharp corners. I find that I use the 3 inch the most because they work better for present cakes...square wedding cakes... etc. I like the ones from Michaels for stacking character pans on top of. I also think the ones from Michaels would be easier to use fondant with. I think you should keep them...but the 3 inch pans that you can order online do have nicer corners.
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peacockplace Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 6:04pm
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I have 2" magic line square pans with super sharp corners! If you want to get a sharp corner with frosting it's better to use a pan with sharp edges. I bought the set form Michales, but after looking at the other ones, I took them back.

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cakegal Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 9:37pm
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Where did you get your cake pans with the real sharp corners???
I have the Wilton set too....
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Misska21 Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 9:41pm
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Yes, please share. I just bought the set of 3 square pans from Michael's, but maybe now I will return them.

Jess

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traci Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 10:05pm
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I ordered mine online from The Decorette Shop. Try this link
http://www.thedecoretteshop.com/product2.cfm?CID=21&SCID=15
I do recommend the 3 inch deep pans....but that is just my opinion. I hope that helps! icon_smile.gif
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SquirrellyCakes Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by traci

I ordered mine online from The Decorette Shop. Try this link
http://www.thedecoretteshop.com/product2.cfm?CID=21&SCID=15
I do recommend the 3 inch deep pans....but that is just my opinion. I hope that helps! icon_smile.gif
traci



Haha, I have a thing about squares and rectangles having really squared off corners too. Those rounded corners bug me.
Thing is with the 3 inch deep pans, you can still put the amount of batter required for a 2 inch deep pan if you like and you will end up with about a 2 1/2 deep cake. Whenever you put 2 inch deep required amounts of batter into 3 inch deep pans, the cakes rise higher than they would in the 2 inch deep pan. Anyway, they will also be fairly level. So they are really quite handy.
I bought a Chicago Metalurgic True Square Pan and they are nice but even though the corners are really square the sides flare out somewhat at the top of the pan. Makes an interesting shape and is great for a pillow cake but not so great when you want a really square cake. Nice pan though.
I wish Wilton would bring back all of the sizes and shapes in the Decorator Preferred pans, they are still my favourites for weight and the way they bake. The Magic Line pans are not available here and would cost me a fortune to purchase from the U.S. I find the quality of the cheaper lines of Wilton pans, the Performance Pans very poor - too lightweight. I have some Crown Aluminum pans and the quality while better than the Wilton cheapies, still isn't that great.
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Godiva Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 10:33pm
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You can also go to www.kerekesequip.com
They have the cheapest good quality on-line pans so far...I've purchased from them before, but 2" highs...

Squirley, do your cakes cook well througout the middle? I've had the bad luck with a round 5" , 3" high pan...Top looks great, but center NEVER bakes well!!!

I have a cake for September that will be square and am in the process of ordering pans for it... What say you? 2 or 3" high?

I figure 3" would be best instead of having to bake twice the size, but am in fear of the above mentioned...

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traci Posted 30 Jul 2005 , 10:39pm
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Hi Godiva! I love using my 3 inch deep square pans! I like to bake at a little lower temp. and they bake well even in the middle. I think out of all my pans...the 3 inch deep squares are my favorite! icon_smile.gif
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irisinbloom Posted 31 Jul 2005 , 1:52am
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Since were on the subject of square pans, tell me if this has happened to anyone else. I also have the three tier set of square pans from Micheals and I baked a red velvet cake in the 8 inch the other day, two layers, and when I went to put the two layers together, they were so uneven, I had to take a knife and cut some off all four sides to make it layer right. I hope this makes senseicon_smile.gif

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traci Posted 31 Jul 2005 , 2:02am
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irisinbloom...That has not happened to me...but I fill my pans so full that I saw a lot of cake off with the Wilton large leveler. Also, I do not use these pans very much. Someone else might know!
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irisinbloom Posted 31 Jul 2005 , 2:17am
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traci, after looking at the pan again, it looks to me like the top of the pan flares out some and I'm thinking this is the problem. It was like when you tried to layer the cakes one overlaped the other, so I guess I will be on the hunt for a better square pan.

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traci Posted 31 Jul 2005 , 2:22am
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That might not be a bad idea. It is very frustrating when layers do not go together the way they are suppose to! icon_smile.gif
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SquirrellyCakes Posted 31 Jul 2005 , 3:48am
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Originally Posted by Godiva

You can also go to www.kerekesequip.com
They have the cheapest good quality on-line pans so far...I've purchased from them before, but 2" highs...

Squirley, do your cakes cook well througout the middle? I've had the bad luck with a round 5" , 3" high pan...Top looks great, but center NEVER bakes well!!!

I have a cake for September that will be square and am in the process of ordering pans for it... What say you? 2 or 3" high?

I figure 3" would be best instead of having to bake twice the size, but am in fear of the above mentioned...



Funny you should mention that kiddo, the worst results I had were with the Crown aluminum 5 inch round 3 inch deep pan. Same problem. I thought it might be the pan itself. So I started using a bit less batter in it than was called for, haha, which was somewhere between the difference in the amounts for a 4 inch round and a six inch round based on the way the batter amounts graduate for the other sizes. Eventually I got good results. Bake this little pan at 350F for the time it should take and reduce oven to 325F if the cake is not done when you think it should be. That ended up working for me.
Oh yes, I am finding that many pans almost need to be seasoned, in that they need to be used once or twice before you start getting good results. I am finding that more and more as I started buying new pans recently.
My theory is that when you bake anything smaller than a 6 inch round and the sides are 3 inch deep, well your sides are getting too close to the size of the actual diameter of the cake pan and the cakes have a tough time supporting themselves in the rising process and it is harder to cook the centre.
Likely why all cake pans at one time were about 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inches deep by 8 or 9 inches in diameter. Anything larger or deeper had the built in core like an angel food pan or bundt pan. The deeper square pans that folks used for fruit cakes and such had removable bottoms that you lined with greased paper. likely again to give the sides something to cling to. Folks put pans of water in the oven when cooking these and they reduced the heat too. These were the common sizes and likely based on the results produced. But we cake decorators like to push the limit so we have to adapt accordingly.
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dodibug Posted 31 Jul 2005 , 4:58pm
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Thanks for all the input!! I haven't made up my mind about keeping the set or not but I am definitely going to invest in some true square pans! And I found I have an 8 inch square pan-amazing what you find when you clean out the cabinets lol!! Traci-what size do you use for your cute present cakes? I saw them last night on your website. Great work BTW icon_smile.gif

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traci Posted 31 Jul 2005 , 5:55pm
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On the two tier present cakes...I use a 10 and a 6. They are easy and fun to do. I have used these square pans a lot. icon_smile.gif
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peacockplace Posted 31 Jul 2005 , 6:14pm
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I got my pans form countrykitchensa.com they have tons of cake decoarating stuff and great prices!

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cakegal Posted 1 Aug 2005 , 2:16pm
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The square pans are going to be my next investment...
I just love the sharp corners...WOW!!!.. I hate the wilton rounded corner sq. pans...But the ones i have will have to do til I can invest in the sharp corner one..
And they will be 3" pan..
Happy baking,
cakegal

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Thalia Posted 1 Aug 2005 , 7:31pm
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I've been wanting to invest in the same thing. I also do not like the Wilton pans and have been researching sharp cornered sqr. pans sets on the internet. EBAY has some for what looks like a good price. Thus far, I think the best I've found is at this site: http://www.cakepans4less.com/squares.html
I've not purchased anything from them yet, so I can't vouch for them. They also sell on EBAY. I just need to check a store in town here to make sure I'm not paying more w/ shipping than if I drove someplace. ..BUT I love internet shopping for the convenience!!

Good Luck with your shoppingicon_smile.gif
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CakesByEllen Posted 1 Aug 2005 , 8:33pm
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I think the problem is that the wilton pans nest, so they are slightly flared. I also noticed the same thing with my wilton sheet pans bought at Michaels. I was annoyed because I didn't notice until after I used them, but then I usually only buy my pans at Michaels with a 40% off coupon, so I guess for the final price I paid, I'll live with it.

It's funny, because when I took my Wilton II course and got those two oval pans in the kit, I was so annoyed that they didnt' nest! Now I understand and am annoyed when I get pans that do nest! Takes up more storage space, but the results are much nicer!

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