Hig Ratio Shortening

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beetle1948 Posted 4 Aug 2007 , 7:53pm
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Has anyone used the high ratio shortening made by CK products. If so
how do you like it?Any comments about high ratio shortening compared to
regular shortening..... Thxs

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reenie Posted 4 Aug 2007 , 8:53pm
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I have. It does change the flavor of the icing slightly though. You might have to revise your usual recipe as compared to using Crisco. I have found though that it seems to be greasier than regular vegetable shortening and it's really hard to use ribbon on the cakes anymore without it sopping up more than enough of the grease from the icing. If it wasn't for the Crisco acting up on the cakes I'd go back to Crisco but what of there choice do I have right. icon_rolleyes.gif

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qtcakes Posted 4 Aug 2007 , 11:34pm
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ive been using hymo. i need someones help as to how much to use. it seems no matter how much liquid i add it stays thick. with the crisco i used one cup liquid, with hi ratio im up to 3 cups. sounds crazy. am i suppose to be using less hi ratio then what was needed with crisco?

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reenie Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 6:11pm
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I used 1 cup of Crisco and I now use 1/2 cup hi ratio. If you use the buttercream recipe I use "Reenie's Crusting Buttercream", just change the amount of Crisco to 1/2 cup hi ratio shortening and you'll be good to go. I use it for all my cakes and piping.

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Elizabeth19 Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 6:20pm
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definitely use less hi ratio than you would Crisco. This thread should be helpful:
http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-314983.html
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southerncake Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 6:22pm
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I just started using hi-ratio this week. I did a wedding cake with it yesterday and it was amazing!! I used the recipe that, I believe, JanH posted on this site http://www.cakewalkchicago.com/recipes.html -- the Basic buttercream. I used 1 tsp cl. vanilla and 1 tsp butter flavoring. I did read somewhere that adding a couple of drops of vinegar would decrease cracking, so I may try adding that next time. I did double this recipe and it did well in the KA Artisan.

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JanH Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 7:21pm
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Found another hi-ratio shortening recipe on the Sweetex site:

http://www.sweetc.com/Recipes/sweetex.htm

HTH

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southerncake Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 7:40pm
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Thanks JanH for yet another great recipe! I want to try this one tonight. Do I remember correctly that meringue powder can be used as the egg white powder? I don't want to use an egg white.

I love the hi ration and hope I never have to go back to crisco!! Luckily DH can get it through work for abot 50 lb for $30.

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JanH Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 7:56pm
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southerncake, you can use the meringue powder in place of the egg white powder. icon_smile.gif

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mdutcher Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 8:31pm
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I've been using the CK brand since I switched from crisco. I've found that if I use the same amount as crisco, it's a little greasier, sweeter, and fluffier (almost too fluffy). If I do half, it's too stiff and dry. icon_sad.gif With the old crisco, I never had a problem with my icing cracking. Since I switched, it cracks all the time!!! Whether I use half or full amount, it always cracks. I even add a little vinegar and it still cracks. I tried a recipe of 2 parts hi ratio to 1 part butter and I like the consistency and spreadability alot and it smoothed very well. thumbs_up.gif But sure enough when I went to move the cake.....cracks all over it!!! icon_cry.gif I guess I'll have to maybe try a different brand of hi ratio. I've just been buying the CK brand because that's what my local cake shop sells.

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qtcakes Posted 5 Aug 2007 , 9:47pm
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mdutcher,
ive had the same problem.
i use part real butter also. i called the company last fri. but havent gotten a response yet. i want to get to the bottom of this. i figured they could tell me about it and whats best.

if i hear from them i will share.

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mdutcher Posted 6 Aug 2007 , 12:33am
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Thanks, qtcakes. Definately let me know! thumbs_up.gif

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zenu Posted 7 Aug 2007 , 5:22am
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I recently ordered the CK brand and Sweetex and I'm waiting for them to arrive. Now I'm nervous about the CK brand! icon_sad.gif

I hope I haven't wasted my money on the CK hi ratio!

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zenu Posted 7 Aug 2007 , 5:25am
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Southerncake- which brand do you use?

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southerncake Posted 7 Aug 2007 , 11:04pm
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Thank you JanH!! I couldn't remember if that was correct or I made it up in my head!! icon_confused.gif

Zenu -- I have ordered small amounts of CK and Sweetex, but have not tried them yet. The 50-lb box that DH bought me is called Quali-Bake Premium Cake & Icing Shortening. It can be found from the big restaurant supply companies. I was really nervous about it since I had never heard of it, but I LOVE it!!

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darkchocolate Posted 7 Aug 2007 , 11:43pm
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I have used CK high ratio, Alpine and Sweetex. I think I prefer Sweetex, but to be fair I would have to do a side by side comparison. I don't have any CK High Ratio, so I won't be doing a comparison anytime soon.

I used equal amounts high ratio for the amount of Crisco called for.

I am also having a terrible time with little cracks all over my icing and I hate it! I used my Wilton Cupcake Carrier this week-end for a cupcake cake and evidently it isn't sturdy enough. I did find if I didn't pick it up careful it would twist on me.

darkchocolate

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qtcakes Posted 8 Aug 2007 , 10:45am
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i heard for the hymo rep. hymo is the brand of high ratio im using.
he sent me this recipie, its from sweetex, its what they recommend. im going to try it today.

6 lbs. 9 oz. 6X powdered sugar( 3 1/2 -2lb. c&h bags )
7oz. non-fat dry milk
1/3 salt.

1lb.15oz high ratio(3 cups)
1lb 1 1/2oz. water (2 cups +)
flavorings

mix for 9 min.

so from what i can tell its like most of the girls have written here. you need 1/2 the amount of high ratio to crisco.

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