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post #1 of 26
9/29/06 at 4:27pm
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I've read a lot about using a flower nail to get a level cake instead of a heating core. How exactly do you do this? Is it a lilly nail or the rose one? And, does it have to be metal? If so, where do you get one of those, I only have a plastic one. Thank you so much in advance. I LOVE this site and am totally ADDICTED!!! I have my first wedding cake for a friend in a couple of weeks and am trying to get ALL the tips I can!!!
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post #2 of 26
9/29/06 at 4:32pm
1) yes has to be metal ...like the ones for roses.

2) my local wal-mart even has the metal ones (crafts dept./cake aisle) and so do most hobby/craft stores

3) grease it up just like do the pan.

4) place it in center of pan with flat end down and point up. -- pour in batter and bake.

HTH
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post #3 of 26
9/29/06 at 4:33pm
You must use a metal flower nail available at Michaels or anywhere they sell Wilton cake supplies.

You just grease and flour it thoroughly invert it onto the bottom of your baking pan, then pour batter around it. Bake cake as normal. Wait 10 minutes, flip cake onto cake board, pull out nail. Quick and simple.

Good luck!

*I always over-fill my cake pans, so that they rise above the edge, so I just lop off the top of the cake and then flip.
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post #4 of 26
9/29/06 at 4:34pm
I did this just about a month ago. You use a Wilton flower nail no. 7 or 9, grease it, turn it upside down in the middle of the pan, then pour your batter over it. It works great! It doesn't leave a big hole in the middle of the cake like the heating core. Then when the cake is done, just pull it out!
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post #5 of 26
9/29/06 at 4:36pm
I think that is the best trick ever.
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Twin Dees

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Happy Baking,

Twin Dees

"Good cakes aren't cheap,
Cheap cakes aren't good" (TM)

I am a very proud Mom of Nia , Jada, & D.J.
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post #6 of 26
9/29/06 at 6:09pm
When using flower nail, do we have to use the bake even strips?
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post #7 of 26
9/29/06 at 6:18pm
You could but you don't need too. Be sure that when you bake cakes larger than one cake mix to use 2 nails. Evenly spaced so that the cake bakes evenly. HTH>
Debi Ashwood
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post #8 of 26
9/29/06 at 6:18pm
I haven't tried this yet. I've been wondering - doesn't the batter wind up flowing underneath the flower nail?
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post #9 of 26
9/29/06 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by kaste28

I haven't tried this yet. I've been wondering - doesn't the batter wind up flowing underneath the flower nail?



hardly at all...just be sure the nail is in first and pour batter around it.

most flower nails have a very flat surface that fits tightly against the pan bottom.
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post #10 of 26
9/29/06 at 6:28pm
I almost tried it yesterday, but I chickened out because I was worried about that. Thank you, Doug!!! I'll be using that trick tomorrow!
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post #11 of 26
9/29/06 at 7:40pm
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Thanks so much for all your replies! I'm glad I didn't just wing it...I would've ended up using a lilly nail, that probably would've melted AND left a hole in my cake!!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post #12 of 26
9/29/06 at 8:00pm
I used a #7 in my 9x13 for the first time Wednesday. It works GREAT!
NO hump in the cake and the nail slid right out when I flipped the cake. icon_biggrin.gif
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post #13 of 26
9/29/06 at 10:15pm
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Originally Posted by Doug

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Originally Posted by kaste28

I haven't tried this yet. I've been wondering - doesn't the batter wind up flowing underneath the flower nail?



hardly at all...just be sure the nail is in first and pour batter around it.

most flower nails have a very flat surface that fits tightly against the pan bottom.



I do the flower nail trick all the time now, but a couple of times I forgot to put it in BEFORE I poured the batter! So I sprayed it with pam for baking and stuck it in anyway. It came out fine. Still ended up on the bottom without any cake underneath. Worked great!

I think I'll do it this way everytime now. It's easier and I don't have to worry about the nail moving while I pour the batter in.
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post #14 of 26
9/29/06 at 10:27pm
I have to tell ya that while I love the flower nail trick, I had nothing but bad luck the first three times I tried it. It kept falling over and I had to dig it out of the cake.

So then I got smart and cut two strips of parchment and poked my greased nail through it. Then I dropped it in the bottom of my greased pan in an X shape, with the tails hanging over the edge. Fill it up with batter and bake as usual.

Since I started doing this, no more digging for flower nails! icon_biggrin.gif
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post #15 of 26
9/30/06 at 7:31am
I took some pictures when I worked on my last cake of using the flower nail. I am working on an article to turn into Jackie and Heath, however between going on vacation, computer problems, then trying to get a new computer set up again i havent' had the time I was hoping too. So here is part of a picture that I will be using in the article. (hopefully they post, I haven't been able to put my photo program on this computer yet and am trying to use what I have atm)

Hope this helps to give a visual. It is pretty close up but hopefully it gives you the idea. I hope withen the next week to have the article submitted so you should be seeing it soon.

Leily
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