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post #16 of 36
7/2/06 at 12:10pm
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Okkkk here we go..lol

WIlton Butter Flavor -
Water, Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavors (Which is kinda open ended..hah)

And then..

Rich's Vanilla Bettercreme non-dairy Icing and Filling -
High fructose corn syrup, water, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, cntains less than 2% of the following: *sodium caseinate (a milk derivative), soy protein concentrate, polysorbate 60, carbohydrate gum, sugar, salt, artificial flavor, soy lecithin, polyglycerol esters of fatty acids, to preserve freshness (potassium sorbate), xanthan gum.
*not a source of lactose

So there you go. any input? Sounds pretty scary to me!! haha
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post #17 of 36
7/2/06 at 12:18pm
Technically i guess they are safe ,but i don't know if you want to take the risk with someone else's allergy you don't know. Honestly i think an all crisco recipe with maybe a little extra vanilla or chocolate all crisco buttercream will be alright and just yummy. icon_biggrin.gif

Oh! i completely forgot if you want buttery icing, then use earth balance! It's vegan(meaning no milk) has buttery flavor and works jsut like butteR(well technically its margirine ,but it wont give you as much as a greasy feel if you use all crisco).

"Earth Balance® Natural Buttery Sticks
79% Vegetable Oil Spread, with fresh, buttery taste."

That's the complete title and it can be found at Whole Foods or other health stores. Just use it as you would butter in your icing. I do it all the time(i can't beleive i almost forgot about earth balance!). icon_biggrin.gif
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post #18 of 36
7/2/06 at 2:47pm
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I think ill try that....!

I was trying reallly hard to avoid the all-crisco recipe. I kinda of hate it..i dont like how it like..sticks in your mouth lol

im so happy you remembered! icon_smile.gif
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post #19 of 36
7/2/06 at 2:49pm
I'd ask your friend if butter is an issue - it doesn't have the milk sugars (lactose) in it that is what causes the distress. The butter is only fat. I'm betting it isn't an issue.
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post #20 of 36
7/2/06 at 2:51pm
My child is on a milk free diet and I use Fleischmann's unsalted butter.
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post #21 of 36
7/2/06 at 2:52pm
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I know he cant have butter beacuse (he is a doctor..i work for him..) when we get lunches from the drug reps we always have to specify that nothing can be cooked in butter or anything.
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post #22 of 36
7/2/06 at 4:51pm
If he can't have butter, he most likely would not be able to have milk derivatives either so that "non-dairy" icing wouldn't be good.

I can't have any milk, butter, cheese or any derivatives. The all crisco icing is pretty good with some flavoring and scratch cakes made with soy milk are yummy.
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post #23 of 36
7/2/06 at 8:32pm
First I have to say that I think it very cool that you're taking the time to research this for your friend (?).
I've learned through my own trials with lactose intolerance that it does vary by individual; in other words: what you can tolerate, I may not be able to or visa versa. In my BC icing, I use 1/8 c margarine and the rest crisco and my daughter tolerates it fine. Ths Lactaid milk does have the Lactase enzyme added (what the body lacks/needs for lactose digestion). Her pediatrician said it's just a matter of finding her degree of tolerance, which in her case is pretty low. Also, just because it is dairy doesn't mean it has Lactose in it (ie, eggs do Not contain lactose) Many items are noted that they have milk derivatives for those who have a Milk Allergy. This is different than lactose intolerance. If you can, you might want to ask a friend or relative..
Another thought about the butter flavoring: you could possibly use all crisco and almond flavoring or extra vanilla. There's no rule that it HAS to have butter at all.
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post #24 of 36
7/2/06 at 8:35pm
Last week I tried the Carnation liquid non-dairy French Vanilla creamer in my icing and it was delicious. I would omit all of the butter and use the vanilla creamer. Good luck.
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post #25 of 36
7/2/06 at 10:05pm
The carnation non-dairy creamer and any other non-dairy creamer DOES contain milk. Not drectly milk but milk part and again if he cant have butter i doubt he can have any milk.

Here's the liquid non-dairy fat free french vanilla liquid ingredients:


INGREDIENTS: WATER, SUGAR, CORN SYRUP SOLIDS, PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED SOYBEAN AND/OR COTTONSEED OIL**, AND LESS THAN 2% OF NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, DIPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, SODIUM CASEINATE (A MILK DERIVATIVE)***, COLOR ADDED, SODIUM STEAROYL LACTYLATE, MONO- AND DIGLYCERIDES, POLYSORBATE 60, CARRAGEENAN, BETA-CAROTENE COLOR.
** Adds a trivial amount of fat.
*** Not a source of lactose.

Don't always trust labels. Although its not a lactose as said before if he can't take butter i don't think he can take milk(lactose free or not). Although it says non-dairy still look at the ingredients because it can still contain milk(even if sometimes milk-free really means lactose free).

I'd tell you to just get vegan products ,but even those contain milk or milk-derived ingredients. I say vegan not because of the eggs but the milk, most vegetarian products contain milk.
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post #26 of 36
7/3/06 at 8:23am
it sounds like he may be ALLERGIC to milk (like Jorre?) She said she makes (YUMMY) scratch cakes with soy milk and that she cant have butter or anything derrived from milk. Maybe she would share a recipe? I would like to try the recipe too.
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post #27 of 36
7/3/06 at 9:19am
Loves2bake, just so you know if all your taking out is milk/butter ingredients any cake recipe can be changed to use any good vegan margirine as the 'butter' and any rice or nut milk as the 'milk'. Lol It's eggs you have to get a little more creative with.(the vegan marigirine i talk about 'Earth Balance' has baking sticks that ach stick is equivilient to 1 stick of butter. So if a reciep calls for 1 cup or 2 sticks of butter just put in 2 sticks of earth balance margirine.) icon_smile.gif
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post #28 of 36
7/3/06 at 9:45am
You're right FerretDeprived icon_smile.gif When I first jumped into this topic, I thought PieceOfCake61804 was talking about Lactose Intolerance (which I've learned about with my child), but the more we talk about it, it sounds as if her boss has a MILK ALLERGY of which I know little..lol except that they cannot tolerate ANY milk derivatives. That's why I suggested she tlk to Jorre who knows much more about the allergy part than I do.
PieceOfCake61804, would it be possible to just lead him into this conversation one day? Just pretend to be curious and ask general questions?
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post #29 of 36
7/3/06 at 9:50am
Loves2bake, I'm sorry about that. icon_smile.gif I thought you wanted to try a reicpe yourself, thats why i was saying you don't need any special recipe. icon_smile.gif Yeah i agree from the sounds of it, it is a milk allergy not jsut lactose intolerence.
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post #30 of 36
7/3/06 at 10:34am
That's ok FerretDeprived, maybe what I wrote wasn't that clear. icon_smile.gif I do want to try the recipe because now I'm curious after spending all this time on it..lol It sounds like you may also have a milk allergy(or a family member does) because you know an awful lot about this topic. What about Bisquick? can u use that? Never tried it for a whole cake, but works great for pancakes.
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