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post #31 of 480
4/15/07 at 7:20am
Experiment...I'd make a cake and put the BC, with one stick of butter added on it as usual ...and this will sound weird...run a hot shower and then put the cake in the BR, with the humidity and see what happens.
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I have a hard enough time smoothing BC..I don't need the extra added lack of moisture... icon_mad.gif
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post #32 of 480
4/15/07 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by CarolAnn

What I have is in the blue can. I don't think I saw those little green cans that say "no trans fats" on them last time I bought Crisco. Don't know why they need them though, since there's no tf in the blue cans.



My student said she only found it at a specialty grocery store. I never saw it at any of the half-dozen grocery stores where I normally shop.

She brought me and all the students in that course a 3-stick package of it, and nobody complained of any differences in their icing.

If all else fails, we can try lard or beef tallow. LOL (Joke!)

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post #33 of 480
4/15/07 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by CarolAnn

What I have is in the blue can. I don't think I saw those little green cans that say "no trans fats" on them last time I bought Crisco. Don't know why they need them though, since there's no tf in the blue cans.



My student said she only found it at a specialty grocery store. I never saw it at any of the half-dozen grocery stores where I normally shop.

She brought me and the students in that course a 3-stick package of it, and nobody complained of any differences in their icing.

If all else fails, we can try lard or beef tallow. LOL (Joke!)

~ Sherri
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post #34 of 480
4/15/07 at 7:28am
I am so happy to read this thread and see that it's not just me.

I live in middle GA, so I always blame the humidity on every cake issue, but that was wearing thin in my mind with the "soft" icing.

I have a purse cake in the 'fridge now and I'm just hoping all the icing doesn't fall off before tomorrow when I need it.

I'm not having bubbles in mine, but it won't smooth easily and just plain slides down the sides of the cake.

I guess I'll go find some store brand shortening to use in place of crisco. My DH suggested I take several recipes and try small batches of each to see what works. I think he's just looking for a test cake icon_razz.gif but it's a good idea.
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post #35 of 480
4/15/07 at 7:34am
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Originally Posted by gateaux

Sorry I am ranting and this is a bit long....

Why can't "they" and "I MEAN THE BIG THEY" just let us choose if we want bad or baddest (is that even a word)!



Because, unfortunately, we DO need to be saved from ourselves. And it's not just US making the decisions for ourselves - because often, those decisions affect the entire nation. When we (as a nation) become obese, it taxes the system - and those of us who can make "wise" choices still end up paying for those who didn't - which isn't fair.

When the "Trans Fat" lobbyists become as powerful as those for tobacco, THEN you will get your old Crisco back. Until then, be grateful that you now have a healthier product to serve to your customers... and play around with it until you get the right consistency. As bakers, isn't that what we do? Decorate and OVERCOME?!? icon_wink.gif
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post #36 of 480
4/15/07 at 8:22am
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Originally Posted by BrandisBaked

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Originally Posted by gateaux

Sorry I am ranting and this is a bit long....

Why can't "they" and "I MEAN THE BIG THEY" just let us choose if we want bad or baddest (is that even a word)!



Because, unfortunately, we DO need to be saved from ourselves.

Until then, be grateful that you now have a healthier product to serve to your customers... and play around with it until you get the right consistency. As bakers, isn't that what we do? Decorate and OVERCOME?!? icon_wink.gif



I agree 100% with gateau...and I don't think we need anybody-especially the big "THEY" doing us any favors thumbsdown.gif ...how many "FDA approved" meds have been yanked from the shelves recently?!? THEY think we need antibiotics and hormones in meat... icon_evil.gif
And, I don't think icing should necessarily be healthy icon_rolleyes.gif ...JMHO
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post #37 of 480
4/15/07 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by BrandisBaked

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Originally Posted by gateaux

Sorry I am ranting and this is a bit long....

Why can't "they" and "I MEAN THE BIG THEY" just let us choose if we want bad or baddest (is that even a word)!



Because, unfortunately, we DO need to be saved from ourselves.



Here come the politics of the matter.

With all due respect for your "government must save us from ourselves" view, I think it's ludicrous for anyone to expect anyone except OURSELVES to police what we put in our face.

You may support this mandatory governmental crap that some state and city goverments enacted (no trans fats in NY, no foie gras in Chicago), but it's a dangerous thing when you give up your control to those in office.
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post #38 of 480
4/15/07 at 8:36am
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Originally Posted by kjt

I agree 100% with gateau...and I don't think we need anybody-especially the big "THEY" doing us any favors thumbsdown.gif ...how many "FDA approved" meds have been yanked from the shelves recently?!? THEY think we need antibiotics and hormones in meat... icon_evil.gif
And, I don't think icing should necessarily be healthy icon_rolleyes.gif ...JMHO



You're right... let's just keep letting the big companies alter otherwise healthy products. Let's let them reformulate otherwise innocuous recipes to increase their profits and expand OUR "bottom lines". Do you have any ideas how these foods are processed? The chemicals used to turn one ingredient into another?

Your darn right the government has to step in when it sees a threat to the nation's health. Because (as I've said in other posts), we are a VERY litigious nation... and there are millions of people who'd rather blame their obesity and resultant health problems on the industry or the goverment - and not their own poor food/lifestyle choices.

Trans fat IS bad for us. Do a little research and maybe you'd be willing to sacrifice a little buttercream for a healthier nation. thumbs_up.gif

Brandi

p.s. You're right... the FDA does pull meds as well. If more research suggests that a food or drug does more harm than first though, it gets pulled. Same thing with Crisco. I don't see your point. icon_sad.gif
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post #39 of 480
4/15/07 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by Cakepro


With all due respect for your "government must save us from ourselves" view, I think it's ludicrous for anyone to expect anyone except OURSELVES to police what we put in our face.



I choose not to bury my head in the sand. Where do you draw the line? Do you condone drug use? After all, why should anyone get to say what another person ingests, right? Unfortunately, there is a ripple effect.

When the government doesn't step in, we assume things are safe. Besides, the federal goverment is not OUTLAWING trans fat usage... they are demanding proper labeling - identifying products with it. And they are trying to educate the public (just as they did with eggs/cholesterol). They are not taking our basic freedoms away - jeez.

I know of two people who have had gastric bypass surgery through the military (military wives), and got their "excess skin" removed at taxpayers' expense too. It happens all the time where WE pick up the bill for other peoples' poor choices. I'd prefer not to.
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post #40 of 480
4/15/07 at 8:51am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BrandisBaked

Quote:
Originally Posted by kjt

I agree 100% with gateau...and I don't think we need anybody-especially the big "THEY" doing us any favors thumbsdown.gif ...how many "FDA approved" meds have been yanked from the shelves recently?!? THEY think we need antibiotics and hormones in meat... icon_evil.gif
And, I don't think icing should necessarily be healthy icon_rolleyes.gif ...JMHO



You're right... let's just keep letting the big companies alter otherwise healthy products. Let's let them reformulate otherwise innocuous recipes to increase their profits and expand OUR "bottom lines". Do you have any ideas how these foods are processed? The chemicals used to turn one ingredient into another?

Your darn right the government has to step in when it sees a threat to the nation's health. Because (as I've said in other posts), we are a VERY litigious nation... and there are millions of people who'd rather blame their obesity and resultant health problems on the industry or the goverment - and not their own poor food/lifestyle choices.

Trans fat IS bad for us. Do a little research and maybe you'd be willing to sacrifice a little buttercream for a healthier nation. thumbs_up.gif

Brandi

p.s. You're right... the FDA does pull meds as well. If more research suggests that a food or drug does more harm than first though, it gets pulled. Same thing with Crisco. I don't see your point. icon_sad.gif



Not be to rude here brandisbaked...but don't come in here and wreck my topic! icon_mad.gif If you want to discuss the contraversy over the government regulating what we can and can not put in our food then you should start you own topic!

Please let's get back on track and figure out a way to help our bc!! I'm going to try a few different things today and I will post the results. I hope others will post any experimenting results as well. thumbs_up.gif
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post #41 of 480
4/15/07 at 8:59am
So sorry... I didn't realize that threads were "owned" by the person who started it.

I'll be sure not to interject any independant opinion in anyone else's thread from now on.

Let me offer a solution to this all important "my icing is melting because those evil Crisco people changed their formula" problem...

Send them an e-mail. Ask them what may be causing this, and how to fix it. I'm sure their food scientists will know.
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post #42 of 480
4/15/07 at 9:15am
Not be to rude here brandisbaked...but don't come in here and wreck my topic! icon_mad.gifthumbs_up.gif[/quote]

icon_redface.gif I was off topic also-sorry for the rant
Kathy
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post #43 of 480
4/15/07 at 9:38am
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You know, I said I wasn't trying to be rude. I am really looking for a solution to this problem. And, brandisbaked, you were turning this into something else that frankly I don't have time for! Why turn to such contraversy?

I own a business that requires about 10 cakes per week including weddings and the largest festival in my town is coming up next weekend...I'm looking for a way to make the best buttercream again on a 5 day notice! Of course I am turning to my CC family for help & ideas!
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post #44 of 480
4/15/07 at 9:43am
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Originally Posted by CarolAnn

The Crisco I have doesn't say no trans fats on the front but does on the label. I've used two whole 3# cans and just started on the third. I don't notice any difference in taste or consitancy in the can but it does seem like it makes my icings a little softer. By that I mean the liquid I use initially for a dbl batch makes a medium consistancy rather than a stiff icing. But that's fine with me because I don't often need a very stiff icing. .



CarolAnn, your description describes my experience to a tee. I like it and would use nothing else. For me, there simply are no problems worth changing and having no trans fats is a good thing for my health! icon_lol.gif

I am wondering if adding 1/4 extra cup of crisco would solve the softness problem? Hmmmm, glad this thread was brought up because I want to continue making an excellent buttercream too! icon_biggrin.gif
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post #45 of 480
4/15/07 at 9:44am
You may say you're not trying to be rude - but putting that little "qualifier" on there doesn't negate your obvious tone or intent.

That's like saying "Not to be rude, but you're really ugly!" Doesn't quite work.

Besides, if you'll read my original post, I simply responded to a comment someone ELSE made about the goverment, in an attempt to get them to look at the "bright side". If you "didn't want to be rude", perhaps you could have said so via PM.
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