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post #106 of 480
OK - I just looked at my can of Crisco and it says 50% less fat...

When I was making icing for my class and started icing my cake for class, I noticed air bubbles in my thinned frosting and was completely besided myself...

Although no one told me until I read this string... I knew frosting isn't suppose to have air bubbles...

Thank you for the cornstarch & flour comments, I will give that a go until I can find a shorting with the fat still in it!

PS... I'm near sick and tired of the government, lawyers and doctors telling me what is good or bad for me... These are sad days we live in when people cannot push away from the dinner table full of fast food items, make a little time for exercise or plain think for themselves, yet want to sue because of one too many Big Mac's, French Fries and the likes... give me an ever lovin' break! Moderation!

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post #107 of 480
Just saw this and had to post....


Does Less Trans Fat Make Food Healthier?
By LAURAN NEERGAARD
AP Medical Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -

A major change in the national diet is under way: Heart-damaging trans fat is rapidly disappearing from grocery aisles and restaurant food, too. But are its replacements really healthier?

It's a tricky time for consumers, because the answer depends on the food - and some are losing trans fat only to have another artery clogger take its place, that old nemesis saturated fat.

"Right now the public has to be very careful ... if something says 'trans fat-free,' what else is in it?" warns Dr. Robert Eckel, past president of the American Heart Association.

Trans fat has become the new fall guy for bad nutrition. Chain restaurants are struggling to get it off the menu after New York City and Philadelphia required restaurants to phase it out by next year. Bills to restrict or ban trans fat in restaurants or school cafeterias have been introduced in at least 20 states.

At grocery stores, the government began forcing food labels to disclose the amount of trans fat in packaged foods last year, and the race was on to see which manufacturers could eliminate it first.

The irony: Americans eat about five times more saturated fat than trans fat. And while gram-for-gram, trans fat is considered somewhat more harmful than its cousin, too much of either greatly increases the risk of heart disease, stroke, diabetes and other ailments.

Trans fat is created when companies add hydrogen to liquid cooking oils to harden them for baking or for a longer shelf-life, turning them into "partially hydrogenated oils."

There is no single substitute. So food chemists and chefs are taste-testing their way through different cooking oils and fats - both naturally occurring ones and chemically modified ones - to find replacements that don't alter each food's taste or texture.

What are the options? There are some heart-healthier oils, called monounsaturated and polyunsaturated oils - such as olive, canola or soybean oils. Unlike trans and sat fats, these liquid oils don't raise levels of so-called bad cholesterol, or LDL cholesterol.

Frying chicken in canola or soybean oil instead of partially hydrogenated shortening is an easy switch.

But you can't make, say, a pie crust with olive oil. Industry is finding that the toughest foods to rid of trans fat are baked goods, such as pastries, cookies, pizza crusts.

Substituting animal fats, such as butter or lard, or tropical oils such as palm or coconut oil may keep the taste, but they are super-high in saturated fat.

"You need to find a replacement for a solid fat that doesn't have the health implications, and that's the tougher battle," says Susan Borra of the International Food Information Council. "We are changing the entire fatty acid profile of the food supply, and we're not sure we know what it's going to look like at the other end."

And that's where the concern comes in. Merely substituting saturated fat for the trans doesn't give the food more bad fat altogether than before, but it doesn't make it a healthy choice either, Eckel explains.

So the heart association is beginning a major campaign to teach consumers about the different fats and how to tell what foods they're in. (It's partly funded by a 2005 court settlement in which McDonald's was accused of being too slow to remove trans fat.)

How much fat is too much? Federal guidelines say between 25 percent and 35 percent of total daily calories should come from fats, but the bad fats should make up only a fraction of that. The heart association says less than 7 percent of total calories should be saturated fat - the average American gets about 11 percent now. Trans fat should be less than 1 percent of calories, half today's average.

A centerpiece of the heart campaign is a Web-based calculator - at http://www.americanheart.org/facethefats - so consumers don't have to do that math. It tallies just how many grams of fat people of different ages and exercise habits can fit into a day, with lists of foods that fit the bill.

For some people, a single meal of a cheeseburger and small fries would just exceed the daily limit of bad fats. Others who are taller and more active could fit in two burgers and be OK.

Many companies are searching for trans fat alternatives that are healthier than saturated fats, Borra stresses. Indeed, the heart association brought together food makers, food chemists and health experts to explore all the options last fall, and among those generating interest are different ways to blend liquid and harder fats, in hopes of reducing the artery-clogging portions.

For now, reading the food label - the Nutrition Facts panel on the back of the package, not just the "trans-free" icon on the front - is key, says Michael Jacobson of the consumer advocacy Center for Science in the Public Interest.

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post #108 of 480
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LanaC thank you for posting the article! icon_surprised.gif

Now I definately know it's not "me" when I say my icing is thin, unstable, and full of airbubbles! And above that...they've ruined my icing to save nothing!! thumbsdown.gif
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post #109 of 480
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Originally Posted by ladysonja


PS... I'm near sick and tired of the government, lawyers and doctors telling me what is good or bad for me... These are sad days we live in when people cannot push away from the dinner table full of fast food items, make a little time for exercise or plain think for themselves, yet want to sue because of one too many Big Mac's, French Fries and the likes... give me an ever lovin' break! Moderation!

Off my soap box now... tapedshut.gificon_evil.gificon_mad.giftapedshut.gif



I'll gladly get on that soapbox with you. One day the news says no caffeine and the next day the process of removing caffeine is worse on your health than the caffeine. One day eggs are bad for you--too much cholestoral--and then the next day, you should eat more eggs--you need the protein. I could go on and on. I know I need to follow a sensible diet. What I don't need is the government making the decisions as to what that diet consists of. icon_evil.gif I have given up smoking, drinking, and men. Please allow me the pleasure of a little Crisco in my icing!!! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

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post #110 of 480
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I have given up smoking, drinking, and men. Please allow me the pleasure of a little Crisco in my icing!!!



Daggone girl, smoking drinking and men? What's the point in being healthy if you don't get to enjoy yourself? icon_lol.gif
post #111 of 480
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Originally Posted by LanaC

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I have given up smoking, drinking, and men. Please allow me the pleasure of a little Crisco in my icing!!!



Daggone girl, smoking drinking and men? What's the point in being healthy if you don't get to enjoy yourself? icon_lol.gif



Good question! icon_confused.gif Oh well, there's the grandkids! They don't mind me dragging the oxygen tank everywhere I go! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

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post #112 of 480
you would have thought i was squirreling away food for a hurricane or snow storm. i when out last night a purchased every can of the old crisco i could find in three grocery stores. my family now knows, for sure, i have offically lost my mind!!!!!!
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post #113 of 480
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Originally Posted by mullett

you would have thought i was squirreling away food for a hurricane or snow storm. i when out last night a purchased every can of the old crisco i could find in three grocery stores. my family now knows, for sure, i have offically lost my mind!!!!!!



Mullett - I LOL on that one!

I asked my cake instructor last night about the Crisco discussion and she looked at me like deer in headlights... I'm a bit concerned now...
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post #114 of 480
Maybe I can find the "old" Crisco on Ebay so I can avoid this mess altogether! I am finishing off my last little bits of the old--don't want to mess with the new!
post #115 of 480
icon_lol.gif THis sounds like back when New Coke was introduced! I heard of people filling their basements with the original coke like the was the beginning of armegeddan! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
post #116 of 480
I really see this ended as a presentation of two options - one "healthy" crisco (OMG) and "unhealthy" crisco. Just like we have butter crisco, we'll have leaded and unleaded.

I still chuckle over the concept of trying to make grease more healthy.
post #117 of 480
Okay, first of all, I have to say that I do, for the most part, agree that it is a good thing that there has been such a push lately to make healthy foods more accessible to the public. The markets have been flooded with "mulitgrain" "whole grain" "no trans fat" options, and I for one am thrilled about that! I understand that things get difficult when we have to alter our tried-and-true recipes to fit these changes, and I know how frustrating it is when you have a deadline that you're worried you won't be able to meet. Thankfully, we have a great resource here at Cake Central, and I'm sure that the brilliant bakers here will find a way make frosting just as good as, if not better than, our old recipes! icon_smile.gif Soon we'll all be wondering what we ever loved about those old recipes, because the new ones are so much better! lol


I have to get off the subject just a little, though, and address this comment:

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Originally Posted by BrandisBaked

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I know of two people who have had gastric bypass surgery through the military (military wives), and got their "excess skin" removed at taxpayers' expense too. It happens all the time where WE pick up the bill for other peoples' poor choices. I'd prefer not to.



Military families are given health insurance as a part of their meager benefits package, just as many others are offered health insurance through their jobs. Just as tax payers aren't footing the bill for your medical coverage, tax payers also aren't footing the bill for those military wives' coverage, Tricare health insurance is. I understand the sentiment that you were trying to get across--obesity is an epidemic in this nation, and as a nation we are paying the price for this problem--but please don't try to make it seem as though the government is just shelling out money for military wives to do frivilous things like face lifts or butt tucks. Like I said, even if you find bariatric surgery and excess skin removal frivilous (which I don't, because bariatric surgery is most often used as a last resort for people who have tried many, many other options first), the government is not directly paying for those things. The military gets precious little pay and benefits, not nearly what they deserve for the sacrifices they make, especially in these trying times. Please don't begrudge or belittle the few benefits actually given to those who defend our country.


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Sorry, I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but the military issue is, of course, near and dear to my heart.
Now that I'm down off my soap box, let's make some cake! lol
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post #118 of 480
I wanted to let everyone know that this morning I went to Crisco's website and did a short survey and sent them an email to alert them about the problems people (nationwide) are experiencing with their new product. MAYBE if we all band together and do the same we could get our old Crisco back.

Here's how to do it:
go to www.crisco.com
bottom of the page click on the "contact us" link
It will walk you through a short multiple choice survey and then allow you to send the company an actual email.

Are you with me SweetConfectionsChef????????

-Michelle
post #119 of 480
Msauer: I did the same thing last night. I also notice they have a forum. Maybe someone should start a link about the No trans fat shortening and the problems it has. Hopefully it will be notice by the supervisors and make a note of the problems the new shortening causes, and do something. Plus contacting them, through the email might get the attention that is needed.
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Originally Posted by msauer

I wanted to let everyone know that this morning I went to Crisco's website and did a short survey and sent them an email to alert them about the problems people (nationwide) are experiencing with their new product. MAYBE if we all band together and do the same we could get our old Crisco back.

Here's how to do it:
go to www.crisco.com
bottom of the page click on the "contact us" link
It will walk you through a short multiple choice survey and then allow you to send the company an actual email.

Are you with me SweetConfectionsChef????????

-Michelle



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