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post #16 of 63
What are ya gonna do, some people can't see the forest for the trees icon_rolleyes.gif . I hope she understands that the bulk of the pricing for these kinds of cookies comes from the actual time it takes to decorate each one and not the actual baking - that is the easiest part.....
post #17 of 63
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Originally Posted by chocomama

OK, even though I've made numerous suggestions on how to present just one cookie to each person, the bride is stuck on 2 cookies each, BUT she doesn't want to pay $10/guest. She talked about doing less intricate work but I'm still going to charge her $4 each so that won't help her much and I know she won't go for that, anyway. She just asked me if I would do the decorating if she and her family baked the cookies. I can't imagine baking 250 cookie before my wedding, but whatever. I'm not really keen on doing this but I want her to be happy and I don't want to lose her as a customer. What do you think? I haven't said anything to her yet.




She just wants to have her cookies and eat them too. Stand your ground. If she does not want to pay your prices let her order the cookies online at the sale price.

Do not let her bring you Cookies to decorate. And if she does insist on it. charge her full price for having to do all the work on the cookies. If she does not like this she can decorate them herself.

I am sure she if she had to order these cookies online she would no be trying to haggle.

A lady from the office recently asked me to make and decorate 20 flower cookies for her. She loved both the roses and the tulips in my portfolio and she has ordered from me before. Problem is she wants the tulips for the same price as the roses. icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_confused.gif So I politely informed her that there is no way that I am going to sit and hand-paint cookies and then under-charge myself. If she wants my tulip cookies she will either have to pay the price that I want for them or try to find them at Wal-mart.

Cookies are very time consuming and tedious. Do not underprice your work. As with cakes the more details/unique the cookie is more the price will be.
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post #18 of 63
Thread Starter 
Nope, I'm not going to charge her less and I'm not going to let her bake the cookies. Like I told my husband tonight, she wouldn't be able to go into a bakery and ask to do that and even though I don't have a storefront (yet) I'm not going to act less than professional. thumbs_up.gif
post #19 of 63
well be sure to let us know what she decides. you've got my curiousity aroused!
post #20 of 63
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Originally Posted by chocomama

Nope, I'm not going to charge her less and I'm not going to lether bake the cookies. Like I told my husband tonight, she wouldn't be able to go into a bakery and ask to do that and even though I don't have a storefront (yet) I'm not going to act less than professional. thumbs_up.gif




YAY!!!! Keep us posted!
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post #21 of 63
Good for you, chocomama. If she were to bring you crappy cookies, then your name might get tagged to them since you did the decorating. What's with brides these days? The poor sap who is marrying her might be in for it. icon_lol.gif
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post #22 of 63
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Exactly my thoughts, Zamode! icon_wink.gif
post #23 of 63
Thread Starter 
Ugh. So, I contact the bride today and ask if she's made a decision yet. Her response: "Where did we leave off?" I filled her in and this is the email I received in return:

"thanks mam. i really love the cookie idea as you know Im going to check around -no offense I really cant to do $5 a cookie. lets hold on Friday for now and see where I get in the next few days."

First of all, she can't even spell "ma'am" correctly. Second, does she think she's going to find someone to do them for less for the same quality? This is Houston and things like this are expensive. Good luck, Honey. I was very polite and told her that I understood and best wishes and to let me know if she needed anything. Ergh. What is it about me? First the crazy muffin lady last month and now a cheap bride. The girl was not willing to bend or even consider any of my other suggestions. They're just cookies, for goodness sake! I guess girls don't realize that all of these little, silly things don't mean diddly a year after the wedding. I mean, if you can't afford it, that's OK, go with something else. When she originally called me it was b/c she wanted chocolate pieces for all of the guests and then these darned cookies came into play. She's having a nice, formal wedding in just one month and I don't think anyone will care if they have one or two freakin' cookies on their plates! I even told her they could be used as place cards, per se, and I would write each guest's name on them. A little cutesy, maybe, but I'll bet they would be remembered. Oh well. Maybe I'm better off. icon_rolleyes.gif [/i]
post #24 of 63
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Originally Posted by chocomama

First the crazy muffin lady last month and now a cheap bride. [/i]



Funny you say cheap bride.. I make and do almost everything wedding from garter to flowers to hopefully some day cakes... Havent gotten that brave yet... ANYWAY you would not believe the brides when you give them the price list of each arrangement, bouquet ,candles, and garters... First thing they say well can we go down on the pricing of this or that... I hand sew each garter all the way to the lace being hand sewn on. I charge for my floral arrangements cost and 5.00 assembly. I still undercut every florist in this town that does weddings I believe every bride should have a beautiful wedding and have the flowers of her dreams. So I undercut myself in price to offer this because I love floral arranging... I mean come on where else are you going to get a tiger lily/rose/carnation/hanging Ivy mixture with a Fan shaped Cascade Bouquet for $30.00-$60.00. The cascade drapes flows just past the knees. Not in Tulsa... Brides do get over charged I admit on a lot of things but when you have a descent fair price guide and they still want it lower that's when you say well then Im sorry Im not going to be able to serve you... I always suggest places and even suggest great ways to cut money on making things themselves. In fact I have handouts with a lot of money saving tricks when planning a wedding. They remember this and usually end up calling me back.
icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif I use subliminal messages icon_evil.gif Bwa hahaha! JK! icon_lol.gif

Your pricing is very fair and dont go any lower on it! it's a beautiful cake and Im sure you will add so many extra special touches to itthat she wont find anywhere.. STAND your ground!
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post #25 of 63
It's funny how some brides will pay a couple of thousand bucks for a dress, or something that's only for them, and then chintz out on a couple of bucks (or cents) extra for a favor for guests who've perhaps travelled a distance to be at the wedding, bought fancy clothes for HER special occasion and brought expensive gifts - I've never been to a wedding where I haven't spend at least $100 for a gift.

Anyway, you sound annoyed enough where it sounds like you might not want to do the cookies after all, but in case you come to some agreement with her...
Have you thought about doing those heart cookies that look like a dress bodice and a tuxedo - use average size hearts (2 1/2 inch) and package them back to back, let her do her own labels, charge 5 or 6 dollars for the pair? I think I've seen them somewhere in the photo gallery - perhaps you could do a search, or someone could let you know where they are? Maybe they're one of Antonia74's cookies?
post #26 of 63
I don't know how to do an attachment, Sorry!

I did a search in photogallery and found the heart cookies by antonia74 and mac. They're fantastic! Good luck!
post #27 of 63
i found a site whose cookies are smaller and they are asking for $7.50 a cookie. when she asked if she could bake the cookies and you decorate i would have told her "i don't work that way. i only decorate cakes and cookies that i bake but, you can check the local library to see if they have books on decorating cookies". you know its just like the people who barely know you asking for discounts. my response is "sure go to walmart and i hope you like the cake they give you".

yes, we are doing this because we like it but if we give everyone a discount then how are we going to pay our rent?
post #28 of 63
Hey here is that heart shape tuxedo and bride bodice cookie picture someone suggested looking up... I was curious heheh icon_redface.gificon_biggrin.gif

Mac uploaded this one so you might pm them! AND GIVES GREAT ADVICE AS WELL!
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&meta=search&search=bride%20cookies&cat=0&pos=10&search=bride%20cookies

I agree with marmar on these... Antonia74 does a bEAUTIFUL JOB!!
Here is her tux cookies pictures :
http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&meta=search&search=tuxedo%20heart&cat=0&pos=0&search=tuxedo%20heart

You might PM her asking if she can give you a little hint on what to do!
I'm almost positive either of them would have the PERFECT ADVICE on this situation..
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post #29 of 63
I wouldn't wait on her, chocomama....that is your final decision but I agree with marmar that it sounds like you are ready to move on and I certainly don't blame you. Your time will come and she won't find huge, homemade, personally decorated cookies like that for $5 or less.
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post #30 of 63
Thread Starter 
LOL, Zamode! I love the "Cookie Strike"! Too funny!

You, know, I was probably considered a cheap bride, but I knew what I could afford, I knew what people charged and I didn't fuss about what was out of my price range. Hers is supposedly a formal affair and I know her dress is gorgeous, the reception not cheap and I know what she does for a living. Now, maybe she overspent on the other things, who knows? I could care less that she doesn't want to pay $5/cookie. That's fine, no problem, but just tell me upfront that these cookies are the only favors you're going to consider for your guests and then I won't kill myself and waste my time trying to find affordable, yet lovely alternatives. She is set on these cookies and didn't want to consider anything else. I've showed her heart cookies and cake cookies, Antonia74's no less so you know they are beautiful, but she wouldn't budge. So, good luck, girlie. I hope she can find what she wants, but I doubt it will be of a good quality. 'Tis life! icon_rolleyes.gif
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