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post #76 of 98
Well, after reading thru this whole thread, I see both sides of it. I do understand but I also am looking at the bride on a budget. But I see the legal aspects.

As for the one who did a dummy cake, I am confused. If you only delivered a dummy cake, what did you think they were going to serve to their guests? I thought the whole idea of a dummy cake is to have cheap-O sheet cakes in the back?

And lastly, the part I don't agree with is the grooms cake....aren't grooms cakes notoriously 3-D and funky? I mean, not all the time but most of the time, these can be wild. What if you don't do 3-D cakes and they are dead set on having a cake in the shape of a Nintendo Wii as the grooms cake. You cannot provide it and since you won't allow other cakes, you lose the whole sale (providing they find someone else who can). Am I missing something or is this seriously what the stance is?

No snarkiness intended - I just wanted to make sure I understood. Because I feel that confusing sheet cakes from the back and a wedding cake could happen but the grooms cakes are usually different colors and flavors so confusing the two would be less likely, albeit possible. ( And inconsequential, should a lawsuit arise.)
post #77 of 98
Could I just throw something out there that may need some thought when wording your contract? Some people specializr in weddings only (IN Kansas City we have alot of those) and do not do Grooms cakes, that is the big thing now. I love doing really wonky cakes and get alot of orders for my DELICIOUS grooms cakes, also people like Duff because of the funky factor get alot of grooms cakes. How do you word that? I am not trying to get flamed here, I can take it for sure, but that is not my intent I am just wondering, if the bride wants another liscensed baker to do her grooms cake, will your contracts accomodate that?
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post #78 of 98
Just a thought, but do Bakery/Florist/Wedding Supply shops RENT dummy cakes? If a bride is pressed for money, she could rent a dummy cake for a few bucks and buy Sanâs sheet cakes to actually serve the guest. Hummm⦠new business venture?
post #79 of 98
I've been reading this feeling bad,because no one wants the extra cake to come from somewhere else. My son is getting married next spring and I would love to make his grooms cake. I made his older brothers so it would then be sort of a tradition. ( Im not sure if the bakery he got it at was upset. Its the frog cake in my gallery)
My skills are better now, I probolly could make a wedding cake also, but it will be three hours away and I will be very busy, so I decided to stick to the grooms cake. Hopefully there will be no problem with the baker they hired. I don't like to upset people. icon_smile.gif
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post #80 of 98
I totally understand the need for a clause in your contract, but if you don't make groom's cakes (or whatever) perhaps you could put a special exception in on those specific contracts stating "Only a groom's cake will be allowed". I know it still isn't ideal for those of us who don't want our work mistaken for someone else's potentially bad cake, though.

Luckily, groom's cakes aren't popular here. I've never been to a wedding that's had one, nor did we ever have requests when I worked at the bakery in town.
post #81 of 98
I could put a sign ,grooms cake lovinly made by grooms mother. icon_smile.gif
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post #82 of 98
I here brides say how much they are spending on the dj and photographer
and food and then say they need to cut cost on cake and want a dummy cake so the can buy sheet cakes from walmart then I tell them to have walmart make the dummy cake. If they cant afford it don't invite everyone you know. I think of a wedding like this come celebrate with us
and have a nice meal and desert I think that's what people remember
good food good cake or bad food or bad cake
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post #83 of 98
LOL! It is tradition from the south that the grooms family makes the cakes... then it got lost in translation and people do whatever they want/crazy designs now. You make your sons cake, maybe even call the baker yourself and tell her your plan? I never get offended when bride/grooms family makes the grooms cake. NOw if they brought Sam's sheet cakes then get offended, but for god's sakes people you know if your standing in line for the grooms cake or the bridal cake, OR if you are being served whichever, they ask your request.
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post #84 of 98
LOL Babynew year, or put up a sign that says, " I am forking out alot of dough for this shindig now eat my damn grooms cake at your own risk!" LOL!
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post #85 of 98
I just wanted to add a comment......I did a HUGE cake a couple of years ago - it fed 350 - and I knew a lot of the people who attended the wedding. I cannot tell you all how many comments I got from people about how nice it was to be served a piece of the ACTUAL wedding cake on the display table. It meant a lot to them to not feel like "2nd class citizens" (for lack of a better word) - I think it means more to folks than most think to NOT be served a sheet cake from the kitchen.
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post #86 of 98
that's not such a bad idea icon_smile.gif Perhaps the contract clause could contain something about necessary signage stating "other" cakes must be identified in some way.
post #87 of 98
I will have to get a little gold frame and make my sign add it to the monster bill. ( I hope no one thinks I have a super ego trying to identify my cake).Aww Ill do anything for my 6"5 little boy icon_biggrin.gif
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post #88 of 98
On the topic of doing the groom's cakes, I posted earlier in this thread about the groom's cake that I did at the wedding where I didn't do the wedding cake. I won't do groom's cakes for weddings anymore if I didn't do the wedding cake also. If the groom's cake is for the rehearsal dinner, I'll do it, but not at the reception. I also deliver the groom's cakes to the rehearsal dinner venue so that people won't get the smart idea to pick it up the day before and keep it until the wedding! icon_wink.gif

I'd pass up the business in a minute if they told me that the groom's cake was for the wedding but they don't wnt me to do the wedding cake. It isn't worth having people think that I did the wedding cake if it turns out to be a disaster. I wouldn't know if anything bad happened, and it's too hard to repair a reputation that you've worked to build.
post #89 of 98
I haven't read all the posts yet, but I hate to tell you all this, but most bridal magazines SUGGEST this practice to save money so the bride and groom can get the look they want but at the budget price. I know many many people who have done this. I guess since no wedding I have been to has anyone asked about who made the cake, anyway, I can't really see a problem. I mean, if someone asks they can say, the big cake was by XXXX and the sheet cakes were Sams. I think if I had been the bride (this before I started decorating) and my baker had that clause I would be offended myselt and walk away. Brides are very tempremental and I don't know if I would have liked that. That's just my opinion, please don't flame me for it. I do see all of your sides and I can see why you wouldn't want to be thought of as sams class bakeries. But if I bride is on a budget, do you risk losing their business over it?
post #90 of 98
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Originally Posted by moreCakePlz

Just a thought, but do Bakery/Florist/Wedding Supply shops RENT dummy cakes? If a bride is pressed for money, she could rent a dummy cake for a few bucks and buy Sanâs sheet cakes to actually serve the guest. Hummm⦠new business venture?



This has been the hot new thing in the last year. The only problem with it is the dummy really doesn't save the bride that much $$. The decorator still charges for time, decorations (which is where the time usually is), the dummies, and the frosting ingredients. The only thing they save on is the cake but then they buy sheet cakes.

Sometimes, they actually put more $$ in by doing this than just buying an entirely decorated tiered cake.
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