Vinyl For Fondant?

Decorating By KarenOR Updated 2 Apr 2007 , 8:57pm by Lalana

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cakesbykitty Posted 31 Mar 2007 , 3:59pm
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coupon in hand... headed to Joann's!

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butternut Posted 31 Mar 2007 , 4:19pm
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I'm confused. So it's the same stuff that you get on cheap tableclothes? Doesn't it slide when you roll? Is it food safe, right off the bolt?

What about a silpat? Wouldn't that work?



I was wondering about the food safety issue also. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

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NEWTODECORATING Posted 31 Mar 2007 , 6:53pm
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well you know what happens when you assume, however since vinyl is used for tablecloths I would think it is food safe.

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Renaejrk Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 12:57am
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This is great! I have done a couple of very large cakes covered in fondant and it was such a NIGHTMARE! I love CC! I just started on here Thursday I think and I've already picked up so much! THANKS!

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NEWTODECORATING Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 1:03am
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Welcome Renaejrk!! Glad to have you with us!! You should do a search for "Your favorite CC trick" there was a whole thread of our favorite things learned on CC! You will pick up alot there!

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maryjsgirl Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 1:36am
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Picked me up some vinyl today! Can't wait to play!

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cakesbykitty Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 1:47am
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I'm going to do that favorite CC search too! brilliant.

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cakesbykitty Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 1:49am
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just tried the search... can't find it. do you happen to have a link?

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NEWTODECORATING Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 1:52am
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Just a sec;. let me see if I can find it

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dljc Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 2:02am
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Try this-


http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopic-50039-0.html




Try this one too . . . If you have several hours to spare!
http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopic-41755-0.html

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NEWTODECORATING Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 2:04am
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DLJC --THANKS that is the one I really was thinking of!!!

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msauer Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 2:11am
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I'm such a spoiled vinyl girl!! I too, bought some about a year ago at Wal-Mart and have been loving it ever since. You can pick the whole thing up and splat it right over onto your cake (I do recommend a little cornstarch underneath it if it's a little humid so they don't stick together...then the vinyl bends and then it marrs your smooth fondant...sound like a decorator who learned the hard way?).

I love the clean up...roll it up and done (don't fold)! No more white powder messes to clean up any more. Some day when I open my own shop (yes...I am dreaming right now) I will cover every possible surface with it.

Sometimes I print pictures or other people's cakes to use as a guide. If you stick it right underneath so it stays clean, it'll be there for quick reference.

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SophieBelle Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 2:34am
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This is a great tip! I just got back from Joanne, and I bought the 12 gauge weight vinyl. They had thicker (16 gauge) and thinner (8 gauge), but this one felt 'just right'. The thicknesses are listed on the price stickers next to the bolts/rolls.

I am so excited to try this.

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NEWTODECORATING Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 2:36am
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Let us know how it goes for you icon_lol.gif

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cakesbykitty Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 3:17am
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yes, please let us know... i still haven't made it to the store yet!

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ksimp6577 Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 7:28pm
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I just rolled out my new vinyl I got at Wal-Mart this morning (a yard, which just about covers my kitchen table for $1.97!!!) and did some fondant work. OMG!!!!! HOW have I done fondant without this?!?!?!?!? Thank you so much CCers for all of the great tips about this! I'm hooked!!!!

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gabbenmom Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 7:38pm
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Ok ksimp6577, would you mind posting a picture of your newest toy? I think I know what everyone is talking about but just wanted to make sure. icon_redface.gif
Thank you so much!

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mdutcher Posted 1 Apr 2007 , 9:20pm
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I've had the vinyl for awhile, now. I love it!!! I spread a little crisco on it and go to town! I've never had the fondant stick to it!! When I'm done, I wipe it with a warm wet soapy dish rag and wipe dry with paper towel and roll it up.
In order to get it to stick to my counter (because when you unroll it, it wants to stay rolled up) I use a wet rag and wipe the counter surface and then unroll it.

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SwampWitch Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 1:57am
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You are rolling your fondant out on PVC vinyl, the most toxic plastic made!

PVC is made with hazardous additives. A new vinyl shower curtain will pollute the air in your home with harmful chemicals for up to a month. You certainly don't want to prepare food on PVC.

Tablecloths are not manufactured for food to be directly on them. PVC (or vinyl) can contain mercury, lead, known endocrine (hormone) disruptors, carcinogens, and any other additives the manufacturer wants to add. These can cause serious illnesses that might not show up for years. These chemicals hurt everyone, even in small amounts, but are particularly harzardous to children.

Don't assume this is safe because someone wasn't thinking when they put it on a TV show!

If you don't believe me, do your own research on the toxicity of PVC or "vinyl." You have a responsibility it to the people you are feeding this to.

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/polyvinyl-chloride/the-poison-plastic

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BlakesCakes Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 3:29am
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Please follow the link below to a photo of the world's largest

GRAIN OF SALT

http://www.hrw.com/science/si-science/chemistry/matter/stones/img/salt.jpg

Rae

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cakesbykitty Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 3:48am
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I went to the green peace page... i read thru the part where they said it's when the plastic is burned it pollutes... I am a paranoid person when it comes to food products, but this one seems a little over the top. Granted, I stopped reading half way thru... unless there is a "food safe" version of vinyl i'm hitting Joanns or walmart

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VACakelady Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 4:09am
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Well, since I don't plan on setting it on fire, I'll have to invest in some of this vinyl if I ever have to do another cake with fondant. Thanks for all of the tips.

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SwampWitch Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 4:20am
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Type "toxicity of vinyl" (or PVC) into your browser, and see what you find. Vinyl is made with phthalate. Check out what those are, too.

PVC does not have to be food-safe. The manufacturers claim it is not meant for food, and they don't have to follow food-safe guidelines.

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Jenae Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 4:26am
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PVC, isn't that what is being used for most water pipes these days? If that's the case, I don't see how it's not food safe... ??

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AnythingSugar Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 4:30am
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PVC pipe is used for water lines. It is inspected when houses are built. How can that be toxic when thousands and thousands of newer houses hae all PVC plumbing?

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AnythingSugar Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 4:32am
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Sorry Jenae, didn't mean to copy you. We were thinking the same thought about the same time.

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BlakesCakes Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 4:32am
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Vinyl has been a fact of everyday life for over 50 yrs. For those who are allergic to latex, vinyl gloves (for food handling and medical uses) are a wonderful alternative to anaphalactic shock and death.

This is a quote from a website link below:

"For more than 50 years, vinyl has been used safely in a wide variety of applications, including toys and life saving medical products such as blood bags, catheters and dialysis tubing. Among the attributes that make vinyl widely used are its superior performance, cost efficiency and safety. Indeed, the use of flexible vinyl has been critical in establishing disposable medical products which have dramatically reduced infection rates and the spread of disease."

http://www.vinylinfo.org/infiniteuses/medical/50years.html

I think if lifesaving medications and blood for tranfusions can travel through vinyl and directly into my body, I can risk incidental contact with my fondant without breaking out into a cold sweat.....icon_eek.gif

Rae

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Jenae Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 4:33am
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Great minds think alike. icon_smile.gif

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maryjsgirl Posted 2 Apr 2007 , 4:34am
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PVC, isn't that what is being used for most water pipes these days? If that's the case, I don't see how it's not food safe... ??




Not to mention they use it for IV, blood, medicine tubing in hospitals. Ice machines and beverage dispensers in restaurants. Food handling gloves.

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