Useing Dowel Rods Or Not

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klkhoneycutt Posted 8 Mar 2006 , 11:35pm
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I am useing a 6 inch by 2 inch round cake I am going to be stacking 3 of them together would I use dowel rods or not?

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boonenati Posted 8 Mar 2006 , 11:41pm
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I am useing a 6 inch by 2 inch round cake I am going to be stacking 3 of them together would I use dowel rods or not?



This just sounds like regular torting, it's not necessary in my opinion.
You mainly need to do dowelling when your cakes are different sizes, or
extremely high, for example if you were doing 3, 3 inch high cakes, you may want to reinforce with dowelling.

Nati

PS: Just wanted to add, this cake was 6 inches wide and as you can see over 6 inches high, it had 9 layers of cake, and caramel ganache in between each layer, and it didnt need any support at all, this was a mud cake which is a very firm cake though.
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psurrette Posted 8 Mar 2006 , 11:41pm
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Its just going to be one cake? so its 6 inches high? I dont usually make my cakes thats tall but I think if I did I might use a center dowel just to be safe. The safer you are the less dissasters there will be.

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JennT Posted 9 Mar 2006 , 1:42am
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I think it might depend somewhat on the type of cake you're using. If you're using a dense cake, like the caramel mud cake that boonenati was talking about, you would probably be fine without a dowel. If it's a lighter cake, in texture, and it's going to be 6 inches or taller, I would probably use one center dowel through the entire cake. That's sort of my rule I go by....6 inches or taller and I dowel. If nothing else, it will give you peace of mind! lol icon_razz.gif

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klkhoneycutt Posted 9 Mar 2006 , 1:58am
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I will be useing betty crocker yellow butter cake and will be putting BC inbetween layers...

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freddyfl Posted 9 Mar 2006 , 2:10am
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If you are going to be transporting it, I would say add one dowel down the middle just to be sure and keep the layers all together, but if it is just staying at your house I wouldn't worry to much about using a dowel.

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JennT Posted 9 Mar 2006 , 5:50am
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I agree with freddy. If you're taking it somewhere or if it's for a customer picking it up, I'd put one dowel down the center. Just sharpen the end of it like you would a pencil and gently tap it down through all the layers and the cake board. If it's staying at home, it should be fine without any dowels. icon_smile.gif

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cakegirlnc Posted 28 Apr 2006 , 6:19pm
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I'm fairly new to cake decorating so my question is this.... I take it, dowel rods are inserted into the cake and not seen? Is this so the layers don't sink into eachother? Should there be a cake board under each layer? And if you sharpen the dowel rod and insert it through all the layers is this just to stablize all the layers? I understand the reason for sharpening it but is it not suppose to sit flush with the very bottom cake board? I know this is alot of questions but hopefully someday I'll get the opportunity to do a wedding cake.

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Cakepro Posted 28 Apr 2006 , 6:40pm
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I'm fairly new to cake decorating so my question is this.... I take it, dowel rods are inserted into the cake and not seen?


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Is this so the layers don't sink into eachother?


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Should there be a cake board under each layer? And if you sharpen the dowel rod and insert it through all the layers is this just to stablize all the layers?


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I understand the reason for sharpening it but is it not suppose to sit flush with the very bottom cake board?


No, unless it's not sharpened very long, like a pencil. You can pound it into your board somewhat but you probably won't get it flush unless you use 4 or more layers of cardboard.

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cakegirlnc Posted 28 Apr 2006 , 8:42pm
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This definetly helps. Thanks for answering my questions. icon_lol.gif

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cakegirlnc Posted 28 Apr 2006 , 8:45pm
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Hate to ask but can someone tell me how diamond patchwork cutters work on a cake? I saw a cake in the gallery and I loved this look. Also where can I buy this shape or do they come in a set?
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SquirrellyCakes Posted 29 Apr 2006 , 5:05am
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I am useing a 6 inch by 2 inch round cake I am going to be stacking 3 of them together would I use dowel rods or not?



Well, I do this a lot and unless the cake is more than 6 inches high, I wouldn't bother unless it has an unstable filling. To me, this is just a regular layer cake. Make sure you use your stiff buttercream dams before filling the cakes.
I find if your cakes are nice and level, have the stiff buttercream dams and are not filled with a "slip and slide" type of filling, you should be able to go even higher for a single cake if the individual layers are not boarded separately and meant to be served separately, in wich case you would also require dowelling. This cake is going to be served as one cake, right?
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alimonkey Posted 29 Apr 2006 , 5:22am
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My worst cake disaster involved 3 6x2" rounds sliding around. Of course it was pretty hot that day so the icing wasn't very stable, but personally I would dowel that sucker if you're going to be moving it

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Crimsicle Posted 29 Apr 2006 , 1:14pm
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If dowels seem like overkill to you n a cake this size, consider using two or three drinking straws. Sink them in, just like dowels. They'll keep your layers from shifting. They're not intended to support a lot of weight, but they work great for layer stabilization.

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