Hungarian "neapolitan Crust" Cake

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ape Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 2:02am
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I have been asked to make a cake with a "neapolitan crust". At first I thought they were asking for a cake with chocolate, vanilla & strawberry flavors. Not the case....they want a white cake with pineapple, raspberry and custard fillings and buttercream icing. But they want the top layer of the cake to be somewhat "flaky" under the buttercream. Does anyone know what this means? The person I'm making it for is from Hungary and apparently this is some sort of European thing! Any suggestions? icon_confused.gif

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blittle6 Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 2:30am
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Hi,

The only thing I can think of is a Napoleon pastry that I have had. It is flaky layers filled with custard and then topped with a crisp glaze.

I'm not much help sorry!

Berta
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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 6:38am
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I have been asked to make a cake with a "neapolitan crust". At first I thought they were asking for a cake with chocolate, vanilla & strawberry flavors. Not the case....they want a white cake with pineapple, raspberry and custard fillings and buttercream icing. But they want the top layer of the cake to be somewhat "flaky" under the buttercream. Does anyone know what this means? The person I'm making it for is from Hungary and apparently this is some sort of European thing! Any suggestions? icon_confused.gif



I think it is sort of a combination of what was pictured and a cake with mousse or pudding type fillings. Personally, I would go with puff pastry on top of the cake with a filling or jam to make it adhere and then use a glaze similar to what was suggested. I wouldn't go with buttercream but rather a glaze made with milk and sugar or a similar type. this would be poured onto the puff pastry layer on top of the filled cake. You can cheat and buy frozen puff pastry to do the trick.
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ape Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 12:37pm
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Thanks for the advice. The client specifically said that they wanted buttercream....I told him that I didn't know what a "flaky" top was and he said not to worry about that as long as the fillings are there. So should be OK! Thanks again!

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cande Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 3:58pm
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This is a specialty cake and is not easy to make. My MIL makes a version of this and it takes hours to do. She is a very accomplished baker and it doesn't always turn out for her. I think you should make it clear to your customer that the product you will make for them isn't what they are looking for, just so they are aware and you don't get negative feedback from them for it. Then, take the artistic freedom and make an awesome cake icon_biggrin.gif

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 4:05pm
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This is a specialty cake and is not easy to make. My MIL makes a version of this and it takes hours to do. She is a very accomplished baker and it doesn't always turn out for her. I think you should make it clear to your customer that the product you will make for them isn't what they are looking for, just so they are aware and you don't get negative feedback from them for it. Then, take the artistic freedom and make an awesome cake icon_biggrin.gif



Just out of curiousity because I have seen a few versions of this, does your mother-in-law's cake consist of layers of sponge cake filled with three types of mousse, with a layer of puff pastry on top and the glaze? Or is it a bit different? The European bakeries that sell this all make it slightly different.
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cande Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 5:51pm
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Squirrelly,
She has 2 versions. The first version is like you've described and is the 'quick' version.
The other is an "authentic" version, which is much more difficult because the crusting batter is extraordinarily finicky and the cooking technique is different. It is made at the same time as the cake, right on top of the cake, not separately. I know that when she makes it (which isn't very often anymore) it takes several hours to do it (like 7 or 8 hours). She makes the quick version fairly regularly though. That's another good thing about having an old-school German MIL...we get to eat cake and drink tea twice a day when she is around icon_biggrin.gif I still haven't figured out everyone's secret to eating so much cake and not getting fat though. Everyone here is skinny as a stick, lol.

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cande Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 5:54pm
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PS, the glaze on the top layer is 'bitey'. It isn't crisp, really, but it kind of snaps or cracks when you cut it.

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 6:05pm
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Thanks Cande. Haha, either they have really good genes or perhaps they are always walking? Had a German friend who hadn't been home in many years and when she returned from a trip home she said her feet were killing her because everyone walked so much over there.
Sounds like your mother-in-law is a wonderful baker too!
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ape Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 6:32pm
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I definitely did make it VERY clear that I wasn't going to be making a "flaky" crust....they were fine with that! Thanks again ladies!

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 6:51pm
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Sounds good kiddo, let us know how it turns out and post a picture if you can.
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cande Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 10:53pm
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Great Ape! Good luck making your cake! Now let your imagination flow and create a new 'ape neopoloitan'--maybe it will end up being your signature cake? icon_biggrin.gif

lol Squirrelly! I know how she feels. Everytime I go home for a visit then come back here it takes at least a week for my body to readjust to all of the walking, lol.

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 5 Jan 2006 , 11:53pm
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Sounds like I need to seriously consider the move!
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ape Posted 12 Jan 2006 , 4:27pm
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OK, so just watched Sugar Rush last night and he made a Neapolitan Napolean....all layers puff pastry with fillings. I thought I would try to make a small one of these since I already have all the fillings the customer wanted for the cake. Just make the puff pastry and fill in....give it to him like a "bonus" and see if that was what he was looking for. So....anyone ever used frozen puff pastry, where do I find it, or should I just make from scratch? icon_biggrin.gif

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 12 Jan 2006 , 10:29pm
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OK, so just watched Sugar Rush last night and he made a Neapolitan Napolean....all layers puff pastry with fillings. I thought I would try to make a small one of these since I already have all the fillings the customer wanted for the cake. Just make the puff pastry and fill in....give it to him like a "bonus" and see if that was what he was looking for. So....anyone ever used frozen puff pastry, where do I find it, or should I just make from scratch? icon_biggrin.gif



It is time consuming and takes practice and good instructions, but you can find these on the Internet. Seriously though, it is wonderful when you make it but for all of the trouble, the purchased ain't bad, haha! You find it in the freezer section near the frozen pieshells and such.
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cande Posted 13 Jan 2006 , 12:35am
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Pepperidge Farms makes it (so do others, but that is a common brand) and its in the frozen foods by the pie shells, like Squirrelly said icon_biggrin.gif (Squirrelly knows just about everything, including how to make the best oatmeal cookies on the planet! thumbs_up.gif )

www.puffpastry.com has tips for using it as well.
HTH

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SquirrellyCakes Posted 13 Jan 2006 , 12:50am
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Pepperidge Farms makes it (so do others, but that is a common brand) and its in the frozen foods by the pie shells, like Squirrelly said icon_biggrin.gif (Squirrelly knows just about everything, including how to make the best oatmeal cookies on the planet! thumbs_up.gif )

www.puffpastry.com has tips for using it as well.
HTH



Heehee, I wish I knew almost everything, I don't even know 1/10 of what I don't know, now figure that one out, haha!
Glad you liked that cookie recipe kiddo!
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ape Posted 13 Jan 2006 , 1:11am
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Thanks to everyone for the good advice! I looked at the recipes to make your own puff pastry....even I'm not that brave! Will definitely try to find the pepperide farm brand!

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