I place a 8 inch and 10 inch and then 8 inch again, and skewered. I carved the cake to the shape of the pumpkin and then some ridges in it. I also took some that had a little tylose c added to it and let it harden a little. Then I crumbed it in the orange fondant, so it would have bumps and covered the cake. I prefer stacked cakes instead of bundt..is more solid and you get more filling!