How Do You Roll Bc?

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thecupcakemom Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:07am
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Is rolling bc referring to the viva method? or is there something going on out there that I'm clueless on (more likely). icon_lol.gif

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dolphinheron Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:16am
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No, rolled buttercream is different from the viva method. Viva method is a way to get regular buttercream super smooth on a cake. Rolled buttercream is a "moldable" fondant-like buttercream. Look: here is a link for a rolled buttercream recipe:

http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake_recipe-1603-Rolled-Buttercream-Icing-Recipe.html

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gingersoave Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:23am
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How does rolled buttercream compare with MMF or regular Wilton fondant as far as how it tastes and how easy it is to work with??? I have never used it but I am finding that the MMF is easy to work with on some days and other days its not...... Wilton is always the same, nasty tasting but easy to work with.

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ChristaPaloma Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:23am
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Does rolled buttercream taste better than fondant?

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Granpam Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:24am
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Rolled buttercram is another type of icing very similar to fondant. much softer and much better tasting IMO. There was a thread about it yesterday. Here is one I did as demo.
LL

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missyek Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:45am
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Yup, RBC is a great tasting rolled icing because it tastes like BC! It is still chewy, but in my opinion it melts in your mouth more like BC whereas with the fondants, ther is no melting--just chewing! icon_wink.gif

Here are some cakes that I did in RBC:

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/missyekelley/album/576460762347118698/photo/294928803711484387/41

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/missyekelley/album/576460762347118698/photo/294928803711483955/40

http://new.photos.yahoo.com/missyekelley/album/576460762347125573/photo/294928803711584079/63

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ChristaPaloma Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:52am
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Thanks...this looks like a wonderful alternative to the fondant.
Would you say it holds up better than regular buttercream in heat or humidity?
Oh and do you also put a layer of regular buttercream under it as you do with fondant?

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missyek Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 11:57am
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Fondants are definitely better to holding up to humudity. Because RBC is really just a chewy BC it acts a bit like it. It is a soft icing, it tends to rip and tear very easily, but it repairs fantastically compared to the fondants. It has a geasy feel and shiny look to it because of the shortening--but they are not horrible--regular BC made with shortening is greasy too. icon_wink.gif As for the shine, that can easily be masked with a dusting of conf sugar. Some people like to do a 50/50 combo of RBC and fondant to get the best of both mediums.

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ellepal Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 12:11pm
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I"d heard of a rolled buttercream that uses butter. Can you do one in butter instead of shortening?

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ChristaPaloma Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 12:14pm
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Thanks misseyek... (beautiful cakes btw)

I have steered clear of fondant for the the taste of it, but this looks like a great alternative. I like the forgiving nature of it too...

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Granpam Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 12:29pm
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Beautiful cakes missyek.

Yes, ChristaPaloma I do put a rather heavy crumcoat of buttercream underneath the rolled BC.

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ChristaPaloma Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 2:09pm
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Beautiful cakes missyek.

Yes, ChristaPaloma I do put a rather heavy crumcoat of buttercream underneath the rolled BC.




Thanks Granpam... I thought so...would you say that the rolled buttercream would be less prone to staining a satin ribbon than a regular buttercream (buttercream dream)... I have a wedding cake to do ... bride wants white smooth buttercream with satin ribbons around it and she will put her fresh flower spray as a topper.... I'm concerned for this ribbon...it really soaks up the grease and the color change is too drastic, so I will have to tape it for sure, but anything I can do to minimize the staining will make me feel more confident lol...

Are all of your cakes in rolled buttercream...they're wonderful... you did a great job on your pagent girl dress...

Thanks again for all your helps ladies... I'm very unseasoned in this art.

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missyek Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 2:21pm
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Thank you Ganpam! icon_biggrin.gif

When I put BC under the RBC, I do slightly more than a crumb coat but less than what I would normally put on a BC iced cake.

I think with the satin ribbon you will have the same issues--because of the shortening.

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BeckySue Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 2:21pm
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As far as the ribbon goes - you can put a backing of wax paper on the ribbon that will keep the "oil" from the buttercream from seeping through and staining. This cake had a satin ribbon - bc around the borders didn't even stain....
LL

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missyek Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 2:23pm
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I"d heard of a rolled buttercream that uses butter. Can you do one in butter instead of shortening?




I personally don't use butter--I don't use it in my regular BC either. But I think the butter would add to the softness of the RBC even more. But I'm sure there is someone out there who has made it work. thumbs_up.gif

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Tracy0127 Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 3:28pm
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do you just roll it out and apply it to the cake just like you would with fondant, then?

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missyek Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 3:51pm
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do you just roll it out and apply it to the cake just like you would with fondant, then?




Yes. icon_biggrin.gif

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Renaejrk Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 7:48pm
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Oh wow! I didn't know what RBC was! I almost always use fondant, but it's a pain to make!! This sounds great and even though MY fondant tastes good, the RBC sounds like it might taste even better!

I'm doing a wedding cake in a couple of weeks and I think I'll experiment with this this week and see how it is to work with!

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MeloMiMi Posted 3 Apr 2007 , 8:00pm
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The cakes are beautiful!

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clsilvus Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by ellepal

I"d heard of a rolled buttercream that uses butter. Can you do one in butter instead of shortening?




I've never tried rbc before but sounds like what I'm looking for. I don't like the thought of all crisco (bleh imo) so this weekend I am going to try 1/2 shortening and 1/2 butter.

I'll let you know how it works out!

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rocketgirl96 Posted 5 Apr 2007 , 9:58pm
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Can you do everything with RBC that you would with fondant? Does it hold up well for flowers and such? Does it dry hard like regular BC or does it stay soft like fondant?

Thanks,
Christine

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zubia Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 5:07am
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very nice cakes,did you do the chocolate roses with bcf also ?and please do tell the recipe for chocolate bcf.Thanks

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bethyboop Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 5:19am
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missy, were your flowers made of RBC?...beautiful cakes.!!!

I am excited to try this too as I prefer the tast of BC over fondant.

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missyek Posted 16 Apr 2007 , 2:37pm
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missy, were your flowers made of RBC?...beautiful cakes.!!!

I am excited to try this too as I prefer the tast of BC over fondant.




Actually all the roses were just regular BC.

As for the chocolate BC icing that I use:

1 cup shortening
1 pound conf sugar
1 Tbs meringue powder
4 Tbs water--plus a lot more to thin down
1 tsp vanilla
1 tsp butter flavor
1 cup Hersey's cocoa powder OR 1/2 cup Hersey's Special Dark Cocoa powder.

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