Red Vs. Red

Decorating By sunlover00 Updated 7 Feb 2006 , 11:02pm by ColorBoy

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sunlover00 Posted 17 Jan 2006 , 11:39pm
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I am going to buy the Americolors for the first time. What is the difference between Red Red and Super Red?

Which is best for a true red rose color?? icon_confused.gif

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LivinInABox Posted 17 Jan 2006 , 11:44pm
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Good question...I'd really like to know too! Thanks for asking.

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BritBB Posted 17 Jan 2006 , 11:45pm
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Colorboy?????

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Heath Posted 18 Jan 2006 , 12:21am
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I will PM him.. Colorboy doesn't usually know about the question until a moderator lets him know it has been posted.

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smileyface Posted 18 Jan 2006 , 1:50am
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This question of " How to get a true Red" is a problem that has faced decorators for many years. I am happy to inform you that AmeriColor has solved this dilemma. You can get a deep rich red using our Super Red Soft Gel Paste. You don't have to start with a pink or any other trick. The truth is, it takes a lot of color to make red and the more raw color you put into food color the more it costs. AmeriColor saturates its product with as much raw color as possible so you dont have to use as much in your icing to get a red color. Also our base ingredients were formulated for use in icing and allow the color to disperse evenly and faster without getting any bitter taste.

The best thing about all of this is that you can try AmeriColor for your self and be your own judge as it is available for sale at the CAKE CENTRAL STORE! So don't take my word for it, see for yourself thumbs_up.gif

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Hi this is the ColorBoy icon_smile.gif Actually I work for AmeriColor icon_smile.gif I have answers for most all color questions and if I dont know the answer I know where to find it as we have color experts who know more about color than I want to :0

The reason you can get a real red color from AmeriColor is because the color strength (Raw color saturation) is superior to any other company on the market today..this is true with all our colors! The Base ingredients in our Trade Mark: Soft Gel Paste allows the color to blend (So you actually have to use less color)

When we started AmeriColor we strived to solve problems faced by the cake decorator and although our colors are used for many applications they were specifically designed for cake decorating and icing! If you want a real dark red then Super Red is your best bet. want a bright almost florescent red, try the Holiday Red, Red Red is a true red but not as dark as Super Red. Xmas Red is the color of Santa. Tulip Red is an orangey red made of only Red for those that want to stay away from Red#3 it is also what most companies call their no-taste red. But hey all of our colors are virtually no-taste due to "State of the Art" formulation that actually encapsulates the color particle at the molecular level...there a mouthful. been hanging around the technicians too much ;0

Any way if any one has questions about AmeriColor, or problems they are facing with our color send ColorBoy a jingle and we at AmeriColor will do our best to answer your questions

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I just ordered some super red, I can't wait to try it!!

Hope that helps!

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sunlover00 Posted 18 Jan 2006 , 1:54am
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Great! thanks! thumbs_up.gif

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smileyface Posted 18 Jan 2006 , 1:57am
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Your welcome, I was trying to figure out the difference myself when I found his postings. I think he said in another one to order the ones with super in front if you want really strong dark colors.

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ColorBoy Posted 18 Jan 2006 , 4:18pm
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This is a good question. One that is hard to anwser. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder icon_smile.gif I would say AmeriColor Red Red, but there are those who stand by a dark American red that can only be acheived by using Super Red. Do you have Ralphs Supermarket near you? Super Red is the like the color of the Sign during the day and Red Red is the color of the sign at night when it is lit up. I actually made this comparison for a bakery that was making cookies for this grocery chain. The best way to know what you like is to make small batches using the different colors yourself. At the rock bottom prices that CAKE CENTRAL is offering our products during their promotion, you cant afford not to icon_biggrin.gif

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Cakepro Posted 19 Jan 2006 , 9:28am
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...want a bright almost florescent red, try the Holiday Red, Red Red is a true red but not as dark as Super Red. Xmas Red is the color of Santa.




So what's the difference between Christmas Red and Holiday Red?

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ColorBoy Posted 19 Jan 2006 , 6:01pm
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Holiday Red is very bright, it is like an electric red, Christmas Red is a red associated with Christmas by allot of people, again with color it is really up to you to decide what your fancy is. And thats really the beauty of it all. icon_cool.gif

I have mixed all reds before and put them on my table just so I could answer questions like this and I have been asked numerous times but it is still up to your taste and cake decorating is art. Still I can describe them the best I can because I have all the colors available to me. The Christmas red is kind of a pinkish red (if thats a word)icon_confused.gif and the Holiday red is a florescent orange red a little more red than a hunters orange jacket but just as bright. icon_eek.gif

Does this make sense to any one but me? icon_rolleyes.gificon_biggrin.gif

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sunlover00 Posted 20 Jan 2006 , 12:57am
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Interesting.....

Maybe if they would just put the "true" color on the lid (and online) it would be helpful!

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ColorBoy Posted 20 Jan 2006 , 4:26pm
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The color dots on lid shows what color you will get when mixing in standard buttercream icing using the "Pantone Matching System" Do to the limitations of the internet and the individual monitor that you are using colors online vary. You really need to experiment with all the colors to find what color you want. That is the only way for you be sure and you can have fun doing it icon_smile.gif

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MelC Posted 20 Jan 2006 , 4:34pm
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You use PMS?!? Cool!!! Do you have a listing of the PMS colour # for your colours? I have easy access to PMS charts, so this would be FABULOUS if i could cross reference!

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chellebelle Posted 20 Jan 2006 , 5:32pm
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I was just thinking this. I am going to be doing a bday cake soon and I know they will probably want some red on it.

Thanks!
Chelle

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ColorBoy Posted 20 Jan 2006 , 6:13pm
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Here you are icon_biggrin.gif


AmeriColor Corp. - Pantone Matching System Numbers        
        
COLOR  #    PMS#  
SUPER BLACK      Process Black C  
ROYAL BLUE      2935C  
SKY BLUE      306C  
CHOCOLATE BROWN      469C  
COPPER      1565C  
EGG YELLOW      1235C  
LEMON YELLOW      108C  
IVORY      155C  
FOREST GREEN      3415C  
TEAL      3285C  
LEAF GREEN      355C  
MINT GREEN      360C  
ORANGE      1505C  
DEEP PINK      210C  
DUSTY ROSE      176C  
MAUVE      196C  
PEACH      1635C  
BURGUNDY      215C  
RED RED      185C  
SUPER RED      186C  
XMAS RED      1787C  
VIOLET      2725C  
TULIP RED      1795C  
HOLIDAY RED      1785C  
TERRACOTTA      7416C  
BRIGHT WHITE        
FUCHSIA      238C  
TURQUOISE      3265C  
AVOCADO      577C  
REGAL PURPLE      2587C  
WARM BROWN      4645C  
SOFT PINK      182C  
MAROON      195C  
NAVY      295C  
GOLD      141C  
ELECTRIC BLUE      Process Cyan C  
ELECTRIC YELLOW      Pantone Yellow C  
ELECTRIC GREEN      382C  
ELECTRIC ORANGE      021C  
ELECTRIC PINK      212C  
ELECTRIC PURPLE      241C

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thecakemaker Posted 6 Feb 2006 , 2:58am
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Another red question ~ I made red tonite (or at least I tried to). I used Americolor Super Red. I added 16 "drops" to 2cups of Whimsical Bakehouse's House buttercream (the buttercream that's supposed to take well to color). I got a beautiful dark pink. How much color is "a lot of color"?

I need to make a dark blue and black cake in a couple weeks and am beginning to think I won't be able to make it using buttercream.

Any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Debbie

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thecakemaker Posted 6 Feb 2006 , 1:31pm
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Colorboy?

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ColorBoy Posted 6 Feb 2006 , 11:53pm
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Sorry to hear you are having trouble, icon_sad.gif You need to add a little more color to get red the red you want. icon_smile.gif Generally you need 1/4 to 1/2 oz of color per pound. icon_cool.gif

I duplicated your results the best that I could of using one 1/2 cup with 4 drops and I was able to get a light red that darkened to a pretty good red, a true red but not a super red. I made another batch and added 6 drops and made a rich dark red. ( my drops may be bigger, who knows icon_rolleyes.gif ) Still I was able to get the red wanted. thumbs_up.gif I then tried our competator's red tapedshut.gif and was only able to make red using about one ounce and the icing turned liquididy(Is that a word?) icon_confused.gif


same with the black you may have to use more to get a real dark color but at least you can get there with AmeriColor. thumbs_up.gif

Let me know how things turned out and if the formula I gave helps.

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thecakemaker Posted 7 Feb 2006 , 12:21am
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Thanks! I'll have to order more blue and black to make sure I have enough! I'll post pics when it's done (not for a couple weeks yet).

Thanks again for your help!
Debbie

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ColorBoy Posted 7 Feb 2006 , 11:02pm
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We recomend that you use the 4.5 oz or 13.5 oz sizes if you often make real dark colors. the little bottles go so fast icon_smile.gif

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