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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:06 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I offer both and let the client decide...I'd personally never use the powdered sugar version if I had a choice, but there are a good number of people who prefer it. I generally use IMBC for all of my fillings but will cover the cakes with whichever version the client likes. It's too sweet for my taste, but whatever...As long as they're paying, have at it Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:39 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I haven't personally made it with high ratio as I love the butter version (with only unsalted butter and lots of flavoring.. once you put in salted butter it tastes like a stick of butter with sugar in it IMHO )

I find it to be quite stable, but I don't deal with 100 degrees and 90% humidity constantly (though it has been REALLY freakin' hot lately) so I can't say for everyone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:59 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

well iam baking cakes for the lastt 28 years,adn its now that i haved learn about butter cream,i have allways use the cook frosting and cool wip with cream cheese and is good to work with and very flavorful Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:39 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't like any of the meringe buttercreams...I do make it for a friend that requests it, but I honestly prefer I guess the stuff that you guys don't like, lol.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:49 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

tootie0809 wrote:
jkalman wrote:
What's your recipe? Maybe we can help you.


Well, I've tried a few different recipes. The most recent one I tried was:

1-1/2 cups egg whites
3 cups sugar
3 pounds unsalted butter
1 tbsp flavoring

I've tried switching some of the butter to high-ratio shortening, and that has not helped. I've also tried adding a couple tbsp of meringue powder and that has also not helped. I haven't tried IMBC yet. The whole sugar syrup freaks me out. Is IMBC more stable than SMBC?

Just curious, how many egg whites in 1 1/2 cups about 12 maybe?
The recipe I follow has
8 egg whites
2 c sugar
1 1/4 lb butter
1 tsp flavor
so I'm guessing
2/3 of your eggs
2/3 of your sugar
almost 1/3 of your butter
same amount flavor
I dunno I could be wrong, but it sounds like a lot more butter in your recipe.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:51 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

txkat wrote:
loriemoms wrote:
southerncake wrote:
loriemoms wrote:
jkalman wrote:
What's your recipe? Maybe we can help you.


Same here! Its too humid here for use it for wedding cakes and I don't have walk in fridge to keep the cakes in! (I have a dedicated fridge, which will hold two cakes tiered cakes, tops!)

I would love to see a stablized recipe!


Lorie, I have the same problem (maybe it's because we are only 30 minutes away from one another with the same humidity problem)!

I would love to try a really, really great recipe that some of the PPs can recommend!


I am glad to see I am not alone! I don't know anyone in our area that isnt doing some sort of variation of buttercream....I just don't think the eggwhite/sugar based frostings like humidity!!


Sorry to break this to you all, but I am right over in Chapel Hill and we do all European buttercreams. Mostly IMBC, but for outdoor weddings, the german kind with the poured fondant in it holds very well.


no, that is good news! How do you keep it stablized on these hot, humid days? Even in a/c the humidity still creeps in, especaily in a crowd. Although you probalby have a walk in, right? Thats the only way i could see doing it, is have a walk in and keep the cake cold as can be up to delivery time...do you ever keep the cakes at a/c temp?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:16 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, my question is for those of you using the IMBC and SMBC do you make flowers and all decorations with it like you would make a rose on a flower nail?

Linda
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:43 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

loriemoms wrote:
txkat wrote:
loriemoms wrote:
southerncake wrote:
loriemoms wrote:
jkalman wrote:
What's your recipe? Maybe we can help you.


Same here! Its too humid here for use it for wedding cakes and I don't have walk in fridge to keep the cakes in! (I have a dedicated fridge, which will hold two cakes tiered cakes, tops!)

I would love to see a stablized recipe!


Lorie, I have the same problem (maybe it's because we are only 30 minutes away from one another with the same humidity problem)!

I would love to try a really, really great recipe that some of the PPs can recommend!


I am glad to see I am not alone! I don't know anyone in our area that isnt doing some sort of variation of buttercream....I just don't think the eggwhite/sugar based frostings like humidity!!


Sorry to break this to you all, but I am right over in Chapel Hill and we do all European buttercreams. Mostly IMBC, but for outdoor weddings, the german kind with the poured fondant in it holds very well.


no, that is good news! How do you keep it stablized on these hot, humid days? Even in a/c the humidity still creeps in, especaily in a crowd. Although you probably have a walk in, right? Thats the only way i could see doing it, is have a walk in and keep the cake cold as can be up to delivery time...do you ever keep the cakes at a/c temp?


We blast freeze the icing between base coat and piping and keep it in the fridge until delivery, unless we're covering it in fondant. I've never had any problems with cakes kept at cool room temp, but if it i going to be otter we use the pored fondant based buttercream.[/url]
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:53 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I don't like BC nor do I like IMBC. The first to sweet the second the butter after taste lasts two long in my mouth. I put on only the smallest amount of icing that I can get away with. Love Chocolate Fondant and gumpaste to work with. JMHO
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:03 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

I only do fondant! I wish I could do BC, but it is my Achille's Heal. Also, the Crisco stuff is terrible. I don't want to serve that to clients...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:58 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

wow! i love that i decided to ask everyone. i had no idea people didn't serve american buttercream, or i guess i should call it the powdered sugar frosting....it's pretty yucky. although, i will say that i LOVE the no crust buttercream recipe here on cc. i usually add more liquid than is necessary and love the taste of the salt balancing the sweet.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:37 pm  Reply with quoteBack to top

Just curious, from those IMBC and SMBC users: Do any of you use the rose dowel technique, rather than using a tip. Does IMBC pipe firm enough to make roses on a dowl (like the Youtube video).....?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:20 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I love to work with SMBC but want to be able to make a chocolate that won't be to soft Sad

I'd ice a cake with Oreo cream if I could Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:33 am  Reply with quoteBack to top

I always recommend Martha's SMBC recipe to those who are making it for the first time. Her instructions are clear and concise, and nobody I have recommended it to has come back to me and complained about the technique or taste.

http://www.marthastewart.com/p.....CRD&page=1

I suggest that after learning how to make it correctly, then experiment with other SMBC recipes, until you find the one you like best.

Theresa Smile
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